(December 3, 2018 at 3:02 pm)Amarok Wrote:(December 3, 2018 at 2:38 pm)Shell B Wrote: Yeah, it's not, and nobody said it was. I'm saying drunk sex isn't automatically rape, and it's not cool to tell women they can't handle their liquor, so they can't decide to have sex if they're drunk. I did it plenty of times.Automatically maybe not and the argument isn't about women's ability to drink it's when is it to drunk and good if you can other woman can't .
And their is the question of what happens if the rapist tries to use a drunken yes .When the person didn't mean it ?
It's too drunk when you can't say no. Here's the thing, if you're willingly drinking, you're not being roofied. If you become incapacitated, that's an obvious no. If she's even ill, extremely uncoordinated, it's also an obvious no. There's a clear line. It's not difficult.
You can totally use a drunken yes. Drunk isn't incapacitated, and drunk is not drugged. A person usually drinks willingly. Obviously, forcing a person to drink is different.
Coercion isn't a problem without an imbalance of power. If you mean no, stick to it. If you wind up getting fucked anyway, you've been raped.
