#MeTooFar

[Amarok]

I also point out some people have argued that a black out isn't rape . Were does it end ?

https://www.metro.us/news/todays-debate/...kim-fromme

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There's almost always some legalese about substantial intoxication or substantial impairment.

(and, no, it's generally not the same as the limit to drive, mostly, because a person can safely operate their genitals at a point far beyond what we might trust them behind the wheel of a truck at - though I can see a great sketch there.. sobbing "omg occifer, I just didn't see him there, I had a few to many to drink and I looked away for one second and then next thing you know, bam, I ran him over with my giant vag!  I didn't mean to!")

Well, at least we know it's higher than the driving limit, but the question remains: how substantial is substantial intoxication?

And are we sure that the woman in the song has even had enough to reach that point?

It could be either way

And generally the cops tell you not to drink and drive period

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And let me repeat this again this can happen to women or men

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Not to mention the case were a women in Halifax who was rendered unconscious and was assaulted . Judge still called it consent . 

"Clearly, a drunk can consent," Judge Gregory Lenehan said in his controversial decision. “(A) lack of memory does not equate to a lack of consent.”

 https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/defining-c...-1.3309169

Were does it end