(December 3, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Amarok Wrote:Quote:Notice all of that says “forcing.” Of course you can’t force someone to have sex with you, but drunk people are, without a doubt, able to have sex without bring rapists. Do you really think every time drunk people have sex, they’re raping each other?If we go by this definition then yes and i point out you keep assert this .
(December 3, 2018 at 9:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Tiz, you seem to be using a bit of theist binary thinking on this subject. There is such a thing as nuance, you know. If I tell my husband, “hey, I’m feeling frisky. Pick up a bottle of wine on the way home. I want to get pleasantly drunk and have sex with you,” and then I do exactly that...that is not rape. If I come to AF the next morning and say, “dude, Chris and I had the BEST, hottest drunken sex last night,” you don’t get to tell me that that is rape, no matter what I say or feel. That’s absurd. That is absolutely robbing a woman of her autonomy. You’re basically saying, “your thoughts and feelings about what you did with your body are irrelevant.”Too bad i never said that i said
Quote:If we go by this definition (which may or may not be true )
Plus as my examples above point out some would argue that if you had zero memory of it .it does not count as rape ether. So were does it end.
Next i point out you clearly consented and planned it before hand
And lastly i never said "your thoughts and feelings about what you did with your body are irrelevant.” But i do question if that's the case
Did you not just agree above that anytime drunk people have sex they are raping each other?
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