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More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery
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RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery
(December 5, 2018 at 10:10 am)Cherub786 Wrote:
(December 5, 2018 at 9:54 am)polymath257 Wrote: It made the suggestion and then proceeded to show why it fails.

Hidden variables are disallowed because of the results of Bell's theorem. This is what the video is attempting to explain. Clearly, it failed to get the message across in your case.

We *do* have the tools to understand this. Those tools are the tools of quantum mechanics. This provides an understanding, but it is not in terms of classical constructs. But that is to be expected: the classical descriptions and notions are wrong.

There is a tremendous issue with attempting to explain quantum mechanics in terms of classical ieas. It is misguided from the start: you don't explain the new theory in terms of the old, but rather the other way around.

The hidden variables it disproved is only that there are other properties of photons which we are unaware of that explain why photons apparently act in a way we cannot explain.
What it is really suggesting is that the behavior of photons cannot be explained in the framework of the laws of physics.

I suggest that since we don't have the tools we will never be able to explain under any new theory or potentially new theory why sub atomic particles act the way they do.

But they *are* explained by the laws of physics! Quantum mechanics *is* a set of laws of physics! It *is* the explanation of why subatomic particles act the way they do. To expect a classical description is the mistake here.

And no, Bell's theorem doesn't just disallow the *known* hidden variables: it disallows *all* hidden variables.
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More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by ignoramus - December 2, 2018 at 2:47 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Angrboda - December 2, 2018 at 10:37 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by The Valkyrie - December 2, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Fireball - December 2, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by ignoramus - December 2, 2018 at 11:03 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by bennyboy - December 5, 2018 at 8:42 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 9:00 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by polymath257 - December 5, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 10:10 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by polymath257 - December 5, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by polymath257 - December 5, 2018 at 9:03 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Amarok - December 5, 2018 at 9:07 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by bennyboy - December 7, 2018 at 11:32 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by polymath257 - December 8, 2018 at 12:06 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by bennyboy - December 8, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by polymath257 - December 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by bennyboy - December 8, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Angrboda - December 8, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by bennyboy - December 9, 2018 at 6:15 am
RE: More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery - by Fireball - December 8, 2018 at 10:12 pm

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