(December 5, 2018 at 12:57 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(December 5, 2018 at 12:38 pm)Drich Wrote: If you can not find one redeeming act provided by the Christian church you are being intentionally obtuse.
Churches don't do shit...people do....and they don't need a church for that. Whenever they have food drives or charity bbqs....I'm down for the struggle. So, beyond the fact that churches don't do a damned thing that isn't done by others...and done better...whatever meager benefit a church might conceptually and uniquely provide is irrelevant in the face of the profound abuse of it's own members, non-members, and the world at large fundamental to and necessarily accounted for by the greater phenomena of religion and how it effects human psychology...thus, human outcomes.
Your cake....is a shit cake. If you want to eat it, then eat it. Some of us just don't like the taste of shit in our mouths as much as you do.
What is the church if not people? If you can come to terms with the truth ans see the people that create the body/church then your whole arguement suppotes everything I have said.
Again if you can not see people as the church then you again are intentionally being blind.