More Quantum entanglement mind fuckery

[bennyboy]

That's making an assumption that there even is an "under the hood."  I think his point is that you're trying to force a classical paradigm onto quantum phenomena, and it's just inappropriate.

I get what you're saying. It's like asking "What was there before the Big Bang?" when time is undefined before t(0).

I'm fine with that. But my semantic point was only this-- if you are describing brute facts, then you are enumerating them, not explaining them.

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It has been a civil discussion so far, which is somewhat of a rarity on the internet. I also haven't seen any flaming of each other during this discussion, which is pretty refreshing.

One thing though- if one wants a "why" question, looking at physics or math (or any other hard science) won't give it to you. They are only going to give you "how", to a reasonable approximation. The "why" question is part of what drives religion (IMO). And there, most of the shit is made up by people who don't understand the "how" part, either willfully or by sloth. Can't fault the "sloth" too much. Those are called "hard" sciences for a reason.

Given a framework that you're exploring, I think it's reasonable enough to want to know what it is, and why it exists.  I suppose it's a question better suited for the philosophy section than a science thread, though.