(September 30, 2011 at 8:37 pm)Cinjin Wrote: There is a lot that I want to address in your last post, but I want to get to this one first as you did not remotely answer the question and rather gave me a politician's answer - which of course is no answer.
This is what you wrote:
lucent Wrote:I became a Christian because I received revelation that the bible was true, and this before I read or understood anything about it.I, in turn, asked you WHAT revelation? "He showed you he was a triune god." HOW? "and that he is a Messiah." HOW? And also how did he show you all this BEFORE you were even a christian?
Explain yourself and your magical revelation. How EXACTLY did your god show you that he was not only the Messiah, but also triune in his nature BEFORE you even picked up a bible. That's right, you are making the claim that you got a revelation that the bible was true. Therefore you couldn't have gotten this revelation from the Bible itself, because clearly that would be cyclical and not a revelation at all. Also, it would mean that you lied and you did INDEED know about god's attributes before this magical revelation.
You make one hell of a claim here and I'm not going to respond to the former portion of this post until I have a legitimate answer.
If you turn out to be a loony toon, I'm gonna be extremely disappointed - in not only you, but really myself.
First, I was hoping that we could avoid the kind of tone and hyperbole that is starting to emerge here. I mean are dramatic statements like these really necessary?:
"If you turn out to be a loony toon, I'm gonna be extremely disappointed - in not only you, but really myself."
How about taking a dispassionate view and realizing that although we don't agree on much, we're still humans with the common interest of having a good debate? Can you separate yourself from your prejudices?
As far as the revelations I received, they were in dreams and visions, as well as in the Spirit. Some of it very abstract and hard to communicate, other things very direct. I'm not going to go into specifics because they wouldn't really prove anything, and also because it isn't relevent to the debate. The subject is atheism, desim and Christianity, not specific visions I had. If you don't want to believe me that is up to you, but I can tell you that I was very shocked when I found out the message of Christianity.
