RE: Atheism, Deism & Christianity
October 1, 2011 at 12:43 am
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2011 at 12:44 am by lucent.)
(September 30, 2011 at 10:28 pm)Cinjin Wrote: First of all, I didn't actually say you were a loony toon. Also, the liberty I took in my statement does appear now to have some validity does it not?? Most people who claim to see visions and hear voices from "god" are considered crackpots - probably even by you. Hell, we currently have a thread on these forums about a woman who just murdered her own child because she heard voices from god. Stabbed her 40 times and cut out her organs. That aside, your claim of visions and dreams makes you very special doesn't it? (Don't insult me by saying no) Most christians don't even claim to get these rare messages from god. And as always, how convenient that your god is proven to you, but of course not to anyone else. What kind of elitist god does that? What's so special about you, that you get proof and I don't????
Plenty of people get dreams and visions..it's actually very common, and since you claim to come from the Christian community, you should know that. If you go to youtube you can find hundreds, if not thousands of such testimonies. Many, many muslims are coming to Christ these days by dreams and visions in the middle east.
Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.
Now let's turn this around because you believe billions of people are deluded and you're one of the very special and enlightened ones who have figured it all out. Why do you think you're smarter and wiser than almost the entire world?
Nothing is special about me. All I can say is that in my heart I was open to whatever the truth was. How can you cry elitist when you were priviledged enough to grow up in the faith? But instead of giving God the benefit of the doubt, you rebelled and walked away. Now you curse His name to this very day. So why do you feel you deserve a vision from the Lord?
(September 30, 2011 at 10:28 pm)Cinjin Wrote: In fact, one would argue that you don't have any faith. I am the only one of the two of us that requires any actual faith!! Now that I think about it - you really have no business preaching to anyone ANYWHERE about faith.
That's just kind of a joke, Cinjin. Though I have received extraordinary revelation, they have only prepared me for even more extraordinary trials. I wouldn't necessarily call it a huge advantage. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." I have had my faith tested in many ways, and doubt is always more than willing to step in and take over.
Still waiting for the whole reply.
