RE: Is tolerance intolerant?
December 19, 2018 at 12:23 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2018 at 12:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 19, 2018 at 12:16 pm)tackattack Wrote: The above describes Racial apathy. I am not unwilling to address forms of racially disparate treatment. It's not that I'm towing some racial majority line,You are. I mean, i could go on and on about the pervasive and subtle ability of the status quo to conscript the otherwise unwitting, and I could point out that the objections you're fielding aren;t actually an example of that (they're intentional propaganda) even though your fielding them likely is....but what would the point be? I'd just be wrong, culture warring you...and that reaction itself....well....lol.
Quote:or that I'm subtly hiding my anti-integrationalist feelings behind a socially acceptable indifference. It's a null position. You are wrong but let me be specific for clarity. I already stated that I can appreciate that people are classifying machines and tend to categorize people based on biases and that includes myself.Bit of a quandary you're in, then.
Quote:It's not that I object to any programatic solutions to address social wrongs, just the application of discrimination to equalize discrimination. Racial neutrality isn't racist in it's intent or effect. That's the very reason I started this thread.Affirmative action isn;t discrimination. A point expounded upon but glossed over.
Quote:Let's see if I can make this clearer. Person A is an Atheist, they hold that there is no proof of God. It's a neutral position. But in action (put on your SJW pants) that becomes railing against religious mechanizations with vitriol. That pushes the pendulum back the other direction. Which galvanizes the other side to push back. The more intolerance, injustice and emotionalism applied by both sides just keeps the pendulum running. I would like to think that eventually it will rest peacefully in the middle, but that's only when both sides give up feeding the problem with more problems, and isn't realistic....and now we got thoughts about sjws. Gee, who'd have seen it coming? The actions of people seeking a greater equality don;t cause the other side to "push back"..they do that out of apathy or antipathy..and the fact that we find ourselves in this situation is an effect of that to begin with, ranging back long before anyone railed against them.
In this post (http://citation.allacademic.com//meta/p_...657-16.php) I disagree with the conclusion but agree with his quote of King
Quote:The sjw side is right, and bitching about the means used to acheive a greater equality has always been the refuge of those seeking to oppose it. "Here here my good man, ofc we want a greater equality, but you have to go about it the right way. So let's stop all this disruptive ruckus, shall we? You're only making it worse. "Quote:we will have to repent in this generation notThe problem you're not seeing is that you claim your SJW side is right. My argument is really about the tools used. There are bad people on both sides. Inaction is less overt but bad as well. Simply by starting this discussion I do promote action/discussion/change, in myself and others. It's also about what tools would be better than fighting fire with fire.
merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence
of the good people” (King Jr. 1996:745)
But yeah...sure..sure...#BOTH SIDES!
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