RE: Is tolerance intolerant?
December 20, 2018 at 9:19 am
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(December 19, 2018 at 8:20 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
I'm going to gloss over your choice to disengage, because I genuinely do value your opinion and I feel I've put in serious online effort here and I'll assume you were referring to
Quote:If you're against unmerited discrimination, then you should be for affirmative action (not against). No affirmative action means continued unmerited discrimination whereby the privileged continue to be favored when it comes to preferable things such as top university admissions and high-status positions.so allow me to address it directly.
And being biased against unmerited discrimination isn't a bad thing. The problem is that there are people who are doing whatever they can to get rid of affirmative action and trying to feed people (with the help of conservative media) all sorts of falsehoods about it.
Affirmative action is an active effort to improve the employment or educational opportunities of members of minority groups and women per the common definition, which I support. It's not PRACTICED in a vacuum though. I'm certain it's goals are noble, but it's application can be intolerant and discriminatory, not always, but my RL experiences say sometimes it is. I'm not trying to get rid of affirmative action, just police how it is used. Should I get no say on how it's used because I'm part of the apparent problem?
Here's why I liked Dr. H's post: He made it personal and he spoke to the cure, impact and perspective.
Racism, intolerance, injustice can be systemic, but it always impacts the individual. This is a personal problem/offense and I believe needs a personal solution. The methods used to change society by SJWs matter. I'm not saying I'm not part of the majority or that I'm not standing on the higher/lower part of the uneven battlefield.
Look, I'm white, religious, in my 40s, in America. That gives me some advantages. I'm also tall, dead sexy, come from a 2 parent home, have blue eyes, ad nausium. Some of these things give me advantages as well yet I have no control over them. Life isn't fucking fair and all of us are affected by certain traits we have no control over.
Privilege shouldn't invalidate your perspective. I have a perspective that is biased, I lie sometimes, sometimes I can be intolerant. Seeing people as groups rather than individuals is really part of the problem. You've all seen that subway video of the racist white lady being a racist and someone yelling "Your white privilege won't work here" That wasn't her privilege talking, it was her bigoted racism."white privilege" was used just to shut down the lady's very wrong an offensive opinion. That is the perfect example of being intolerant of the intolerant, and I have serious issues with that being a viable solution.
I also read a USA Today news article this morning saying pretty much the same thing(not that I'm using that to justify my position). I don't think simply tolerating others bad behavior or being intolerant of intolerant people is successful. It may be all we have right now, but I just wanted to mentally masturbate out other possible solutions. If you want to stick with this failed system works, or that's all we have and I've heard it all before so let me jump to the end we will disagree, then feel free to bow out of the conversation. I'm tolerant that you have a position, and I'm tolerant of your lack of engaging in brainstorming for a solution. I even value opinions when they are limp in effort or don't agree with me. So if all this is predictable and unoriginal, I aim at mediocrity and sometimes achieve it.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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