RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
December 26, 2018 at 1:28 am
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2018 at 1:30 am by GrandizerII.)
(December 25, 2018 at 11:54 pm)Dimmesdale Wrote: I can't show you anything if you are dead set on maintaining a certain belief system, such as atheism....
At least try. Be that one special theist who actually makes an effort to explain how they really do know God exists without appealing to "gut-feelings" and such.
Quote:Now, if you widened the scope of your standard of evidence, then I could perhaps begin showing the error of your ways. But if you remain a fundamentalist in your stance, then there is very little I can do for you.
I'm more open-minded than you think I am. It's just I'm currently not convinced at all that you know anything about God or that you even know that God exists.
Quote:Some things can only be known on an inward basis... but outward evidence can however augment what is really before your very eyes.....
So, basically, God exists because your "gut-feelings" say so? Yeah, sorry but that's not at all a good argument for God.
And if it's more than that, convince me that it is. Otherwise, I have no good reason to believe you.
Quote:One must realize truth, not just analyze it. Sorry if that sounds dodgy to you, but it's the truth.
How did you realize it's the truth? That's what I'm trying to get at here. But like all theists before you, you just dodge the challenge.
Quote:That which is, IS. There is nothing to mediate it, besides it's own naked Being.
I'm not asking for an explanation for its existence, dude/dudette. I'm asking for some evidence, something that shows me you really know the being "that is".
Quote:Evidence may help one arrive at certain conclusions, but evidence is not exhaustive; one must finally make that last leap on one's own.
If you need to make a leap of faith to arrive at some conclusion, then evidence did not help you get there. You made the irrational choice to get there by making a blind leap.
Quote:What I say may sound to you like gibberish, but at times deeper meanings are opaque. It is not my fault that you want to dismiss certain less well-understood subjects without so much as a fair hearing....
I am giving it a fair hearing. I can't honestly see that what you're saying is anything but gibberish.
Quote:At times one's own VIEW is an aspect of evidentiary support. Again, standards of evidence.....
Strongly disagree. One's position or view that something is true is not evidence for that something. Otherwise, anything goes and all rationality goes out the window.
Quote:Yeah, I'm not redoing this...
You did it before, you can do it again.