(December 27, 2018 at 2:33 am)Amarok Wrote:(December 27, 2018 at 1:40 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Then it ends up in a stalemate. You want evidence, but I don't know what you consider evidence.Nope it's a victory for the nonbeliever as the asserter as produced nothing to back their assertion and the unconvinced can go along their merry way
If I'm in a court room and a judge wants evidence, I would need to know what he or she considers evidence, or they would just dismiss everything that didn't meet their standard.
If a you show up in court make up a bunch of assertions the judge is a allowed to simply throw the the case out .
Quote:No, they behave like they're conscious and aware but they don't have any subjective experience.P zombies are rubbish
Quote: Complex enough software can make robots behave exactly like humans but that doesn't mean that they have consciousness.Which in no way makes us not conscience
Quote:NeuronsWe also have those
Another idiot who take P zombies seriously
Not at all. The question/op was faulty as-is. It's not about win-lose. It's about gaining something, and nobody gains anything if the question isn't fully defined. You can't readily provide something to someone if you don't know what it is they want. That should be common sense.
Q: I need a screwdriver. Can you get me one? (Insufficient)
A: What kind of screwdriver? (Request for sufficiency)
A2: I need a #4 Phillips (Request is sufficient for a proper response)