(December 30, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Angelina Wrote: But how is it possible that we are self aware humans with brains and love for each other etc, if there is nothing else like us anywhere in billions of galaxies and maybe multiple universes?
(December 30, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Natachan Wrote: Maybe we are unique in that, maybe not. I find it likely that there are other creatures elsewhere in the universe who are as cognitively complex as us simply due to the staggering size of the universe. I also tend to think that humans are somewhat enamored with ourselves. I don’t see how we are any better than many other animals or plants. It could be argued we are much dumber than some others. After all, you don’t see dolphins polluting our planet to the point where they might kill themselves off.
Well, ok so you have no problem believing there are other creatures elsewhere in the universe. But if that is true, and those creatures are more complex and more intelligent than we are, then you would have to also assume they may have been the creator of our universe.
(December 30, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Angelina Wrote: Why would we be unique and more importantly how would we be unique in those ways? Why would we be able to even have any experiences, if there were not some enabler of those experiences?
(December 30, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Natachan Wrote: If you want to ascribe things to an agent you must first establish that an agent exists. If I pick up an object and say “this object is made by Tim” I first must show that there is a person, Tim, to make things. And that is aside from the fact that I have to show that the object was made by some agent.
Who made up that rule? I believe God is demonstrated to us by what exists here and that includes life and our ability to be self aware and to experience things on many levels. Not one thing about being human seems like it could have just occured by random chance.