RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?
December 31, 2018 at 4:05 pm
(This post was last modified: December 31, 2018 at 4:18 pm by T0 Th3 M4X.)
(December 31, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You don't know that. I know that you are convinced and obstinate.
Don't know what?
Maybe that's why I'm asking questions.
(December 31, 2018 at 1:16 pm)wyzas Wrote:(December 31, 2018 at 12:32 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Respectfully, I disagree in part. People may be compelled, but that doesn't always mean they will. For example, people who condition themselves with lies. At some point they assume the lie to be true. I'll just throw out the example of people who are anorexic or bulimic. Objectively we can tell they are not at a healthy weight, but the person will often go to extreme measures to maintain or continually drop lower than their current unhealthy weight. You can even educate them and still many will disagree. However, some will start to see it objectively and get treatment. Even then, there is still an internal struggle and they will often act on it accordingly.
Then according to your analogy you have the equivalent of the mind of an anorexic, not about food, but with god or religion?
More whataboutism. Also based on a false premise. No reason to take this seriously as an objection. As far as the example, you are welcome to dispute it if you disagree.
(December 31, 2018 at 2:02 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(December 31, 2018 at 1:50 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I wasn't "just stating something" for no reason, and I didn't suggest any or all people must accept my statement. However, many people, and not just Christians, see it as cause and effect. So the effect is seen as evidence. Do I expect you to assume that as evidence? No. I expect you to decide for yourself.Ok then, lets start simple.
I'm not going out of my way to evade any of your questions, but a lot of them are separate issues, and they are a distraction to what is being discussed. If the focal point goes from one or two, to five or more, it can significantly complicate the discussion. I'm happy to respond to things, but I know for me personally, my head is going to get a bit frazzled from trying to address too many things at once.
Define god.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary (source linked)
God - capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
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There are also three other definitions from this dictionary. For the sake of discussion, I would propose 1a.