(December 31, 2018 at 5:11 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(December 31, 2018 at 4:05 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Don't know what?
Maybe that's why I'm asking questions.
More whataboutism. Also based on a false premise. No reason to take this seriously as an objection. As far as the example, you are welcome to dispute it if you disagree.
From the Merriam Webster Dictionary (source linked)
God - capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
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There are also three other definitions from this dictionary. For the sake of discussion, I would propose 1a.
OK, so that is (sort of) a definition. Why would anyone think such a being exists? For that matter, how is 'perfection' defined in this context? What scale is used?
It's probably best just to assume that as the definition, then either take a positive/negative position on the subject as defined by those things attributed, but noted that you think it's "sort of" a definition. Hopefully that's fair, and we can work from this on the same page.
To answer your "why" question, I know from personal experience. Over time it adds us, and you come to that conclusion. Some is based on the objective, and some of it is subjective. I can't say everybody assumes God in the same fashion, because I'm not everybody else. But regardless, I think it's fair to say that's it's not just us coming to that conclusion, but God taking the journey to, and meeting us in the middle. You seek with openness and to understand. That doesn't mean you can't ask questions or challenge things along the way, but you do it with your heart in the right place.
I'm just going to assume you're a guy, but if I'm wrong, then feel free to punch.
Anyway, if you're trying to meet a nice girl, how are you going to go about it? Are you going to find her by giving your worst or your best? More than likely, you'll spot a possible candidate, and you'll give her your best. You'll have your shoes spit shined, be wearing a nice outfit, and cleaned up so you're smelling nice rather than like a rotten shoe. You'll have an open heart, and hopefully she's receptive to you in a similar fashion. I believe in that same fashion, we can not only know God exists, but know God. We start with ourselves and we work outward. Put that whole process in reverse. If you give your worst, who in their right mind is going to want to want that? And if another person wouldn't, then no reason to expect God would either.(I'm sure you're going to want more, but that's at least a start)
As far as perfection, I would suggest positive qualities both inward and outward. What makes a circle perfect? Both it's form and function. We know all points on its outer edges are equidistant from it's center point. As such, the form makes it highly efficient. I'm sure we could get more technical about it, but I think so far it's a fair statement.
With the scale, I dunno that there needs to be one. Can you provide more detail as to why you would need a scale?
Gotta play a game with a friend. Will jump back on in about an hour or so to try and respond.
