(January 12, 2019 at 6:49 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 12, 2019 at 4:28 pm)polymath257 Wrote: No, once again it is NOT a guess. The observations fit the theoretical predictions. We have fairly details observations of several stages of the process. The only reason you reject this is because of your pre-conceived religious ideas.
Again, there always has to be *something* that is uncaused. For you, it is some deity. For me, it is the universe itself and the laws of physics. No intelligent creator is required or even suggested by the observations we have.
No, the universe from nothing is NOT pseudoscience. it is based on known scientific law and has many testable predictions. At this point, those predictions have not yet been tested, but the proposal is still scientific.
- Bad guess. Observations didn't fit and still don't.
- No observations prove otherwise
- Yep, pseudoscience. No laws or testable predictions have been able to lead to such a conclusion. Also, if the testable predictions haven't been tested, then how can they account for anything? A proposal doesn't prove something, but rather details how you might test it.
HE GOT US! Damn it , when he is right he is right.
Men magically pop out of dirt, kangaroos magically cross the ocean during the claimed flood.
Us atheist have to accept that we cannot compete with "poof" logic.
