[split] YOU! - rational/irrational discussion.

[josef rosenkranz]

Or by my definition - without evidence. And hence, irrational.

And besides, without reason is irrational too! - So once again IRrational Faith

EvF

I think that when speaking of faith the things are not black and white .
If you super simplify faith to a unique sentence of the believer in the existence of God then this sentence is irrational. But faith is for all religions, beyond this elementary sentence,a multitude of believes ,ideas,laws,of all kind -moral ,social,ethnic and so on.
Within this multitude there is,whithout any doubt, a lot of rational thinking . Let's not forget that great personalities of the past or of the present,writers,poets,philosophers,scientists are religious believers. Even Darwin was a believer although one say that his believe derived from social or familiar pressures.

On the other hand when atheism affirms to "almost " prove the inexistence of God and does not deny strait forward it's inexistence ,that is in my view paramount to drawing a blanc check on the atheism of the future and the rational thinking or other mode of thinking in the future concerning the inexistence of God.
I believe in the direct version of denying the existence of God and have in previous posts expressed my view of how to demonstrate that. But infortunately I have nor found sufficient members of this forum to agree with my views.
I'm always ready to reopen the debate.