Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 17, 2024, 2:33 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus?
#4
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus?
(February 23, 2019 at 1:19 pm)Jehanne Wrote: According to Professor Bart Ehrman, Lecture 10, in his New Testament Great Courses series, modern scholars possess hundreds of pagan (non-Christian, non-Jewish) sources from the 1st century.  Why is it that none of these sources even mention the existence of Jesus?

Because he didn't exist. The letter sequence that spells out the name "Jesus" does not exist in the OT. The first book was not written until 70 years after the alleged death claim. 

It is true that a movement that lead to Christianity did exist, otherwise the religion would not exist. The name Jesus was a common name in that region, so it is far more likely that a splinter sect of Hebrews who didn't like the old interpretations created a character like Superman or Batman to compete with the other sects. 

What did not happen is the idea that a upstart pissing the local and Roman leaders off would go unnoticed by outsiders. The Jesus motif is nothing more than humans creating a hero after the fact out of a sense of political oppression/martyrdom complex. 

The same pissing off the wise/authorities motif, can be found in Plato's Apology in which Socrates questioned authority only to be tried in the Senate and convicted of corrupting the youth of Athens, and forced to drink Hemlock.  

Hero motifs are rampant in all of antiquity worldwide. They really reflect nothing more than our species desire to compete and survive.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 23, 2019 at 1:19 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 23, 2019 at 1:53 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 23, 2019 at 2:52 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 23, 2019 at 3:03 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 23, 2019 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 23, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by no one - February 23, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 23, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 23, 2019 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 6:03 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jackalope - February 23, 2019 at 10:40 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 7:10 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 8:11 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 11:10 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 7:58 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 24, 2019 at 8:28 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 26, 2019 at 8:40 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 26, 2019 at 10:03 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 28, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 28, 2019 at 10:36 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 24, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 10:07 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 24, 2019 at 11:20 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 24, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by GUBU - February 24, 2019 at 5:34 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 5:38 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 6:16 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Yonadav - February 24, 2019 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 24, 2019 at 6:18 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 26, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 26, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 26, 2019 at 6:44 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Brian37 - February 26, 2019 at 7:11 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Jehanne - February 26, 2019 at 9:36 pm
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Cod - March 14, 2019 at 2:35 am
RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus? - by Cod - March 15, 2019 at 4:00 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Why did Kentucky fight on the side of the north? CapnAwesome 20 6770 May 18, 2017 at 11:43 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  How do dictators take over? TaraJo 33 6630 March 1, 2017 at 6:51 am
Last Post: abaris



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)