(February 24, 2019 at 6:26 pm)PRJA93 Wrote:(February 24, 2019 at 6:16 pm)Yonadav Wrote: I'm not arguing for his historicity. I just wouldn't expect to find mention of him in other sources. Folks in this discussion are acting like it is reasonable to expect that he would have been mentioned in one or more of the surviving pagan writings from that time. But I think that it would be a terribly long shot for him to be mentioned in any of them.I don't know that he would be found in Pagan writings, either. I do think we would see some contemporary writings about him though if he was such an influential, controversial figure. I think the writing that's closest to the life of Jesus was written something like 150+ years after his death. Just seems weird that no one would write about the man during his lifetime.
I don't think that it's that weird that no one wrote anything about him that survived to our times. I imagine that he wouldn't have been written about much at all by anyone, if at all during his lifetime. What did he do? He had 12 disciples? That's not remarkable. He performed some miracles? Sure, and maybe thousands of people saw them and were very impressed. But to everyone who didn't see them they just would have been the sorts of stories that they frequently hear of. He was executed? So were a whole lot of other people. So during his life, he just wouldn't have been that big of a deal to write about. Minor scribes could have scribbled things about him sometimes if he was good a drawing crowds. But thousands and thousands of people probably had minor little stories about them scribbled by scribes, and most of those scribblings aren't around today. The chances of anything that was written about him during his lifetime surviving to this day simply aren't good.
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