RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus?
February 27, 2019 at 3:03 am
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2019 at 3:08 am by Godscreated.)
(February 26, 2019 at 10:03 am)Jehanne Wrote:(February 26, 2019 at 3:53 am)Godscreated Wrote: Herod was a coward who was also smart enough to stay out of a situation that could cause him problems with Rome.
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Why, there were no newspapers ,TVs, radios or anything else that would cause these things to spread far and wide, they would fade as they were told because the people then did not care to believe them. They stayed in and around Jerusalem because it was a local thing and a local religion, Jesus himself said, "you have seen my miracles and still you do not believe," and He was not just speaking about himself He was also speaking about the miracles.
As I said in the other thread, they were not interested because they had their own religious beliefs. The Jewish priest never wrote about Him and He faced them many times even at their behesting. They knew He was a real person, they feared Him and rightly so. After what seemed to be His end they were not going to cause this problem they had to live on, yet He has for 2000 years. Also, not many people could read or write in those days and those who could had something to prove or motivate and those outside of Jesus circle of people wanted this man's reputation to die as they though He had died. Here was their attitude see not, hear not, know not, the end, but the story was just beginning. Jesus surrounded himself with literate men that could pass along His story after He was gone from this world, it was no accident and now we have the rest of the story.
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That's not what the Gospels claim:
Quote:24 News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill with various diseases, those suffering severe pain, the demon-possessed, those having seizures, and the paralyzed; and he healed them. (Matthew 4:24, NIV)
News about a person could easily spread over a distance, but without the many believing what they heard. Israel and Syria put together are still quite small, they are not near the size of my state. That verse is referring to the ones who actually believed. Jesus told the priest and the people that they had seen the miracles and still did not believe. They did not believe the miracles were real nor did they believe He was the Son of God. They had preconceived notions about who and what the Son of God should be like and how He should act, they failed to understand the words given to them by God.
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(February 26, 2019 at 8:40 am)Yonadav Wrote:(February 26, 2019 at 3:53 am)Godscreated Wrote: Herod was a coward who was also smart enough to stay out of a situation that could cause him problems with Rome.
Sorry, dude. The only way that Herod sending that guy back to the Romans makes any sense is if your guy wasn't Jewish.
You are wrong, Herod showed his cowardness by playing into the hands of Rome and he didn't want to upset the apple cart and lose his cushy place. The priest wanted Jesus dead and they knew the only way that would happen was at the hand of Rome. Herod wasn't going to buck the system of the priest, they had much power in Israel.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.