(February 28, 2019 at 6:41 pm)fredd bear Wrote:Well, we know there were apocalyptic jewish preachers/leaders around at the time. I suppose there may have been so many that it didn't rate as newsworthy anymore.(February 28, 2019 at 10:09 am)Jehanne Wrote: Maybe they did not believe him because they recognized his "miracles" to be a sham, a dime-a-dozen so-called "miracle workers" in 1st century Palestine?
Quite possibly.
Jewish tradition has a long history of prophets performing miracles. I suspect Jesus' miracles may have been underwhelming when compared with Moses, or even father Abraham, to whom god spoke directly , and who sent an angel to stop Abraham killing Isaac .
(February 28, 2019 at 6:41 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else see just how terrified of his god Abraham must have been to be ready to sacrifice his beloved son Isaac.?It's a creepy story. Even creepier are the christian attempts not only to gloss over it, but to present it as a moral tale in favour of obedience to gunderscored.
(February 28, 2019 at 6:41 pm)fredd bear Wrote: YHWH was an arsehole; the Torah is full of bits such as people fearing god, and of him saying "---for I am a jealous god" (Exodus 20:5)As a mono-god, what was he jealous of, exactly?
(February 28, 2019 at 6:41 pm)fredd bear Wrote: "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"An implicit admission of competing gods and a statement of an insidious doctrine that one inherits the sins of others that one could do nothing about anyway.
(February 28, 2019 at 6:41 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Not only do I think this is literal, I think it also shows Judaism was not a monotheistic religion at that time. ECourse not. There was a pantheon at the time. The whole flood myth was lifted from Gilgamesh, for example.
