RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus?
March 4, 2019 at 2:39 am
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2019 at 2:48 am by Godscreated.)
(March 2, 2019 at 6:49 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(March 2, 2019 at 4:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Peter, John, Matthew were all eyewitnesses to these events they are also 1st generation. Paul and Luke had first hand accounts from eyewitnesses and were also 1st generation writers.
I do not know if the story is true or not, what I do know is the process of healing as described in the testimonies is not how God would work. The healing done by Jesus were immediate and witnessed by people who were present at the event.
If this man's leg was amputated because of gangrene then the miracle was that he was healed and was able to continue with his life, gangrene so bad that the leg was black was fatal the majority of the time in those days. So I take this story with a grain of salt and let others decide for themselves if it's true or not. Sensational health and wealth stories are not important to me because I see the real reasons for a Christian life and when healing comes then that is a great bit of grace from God.
GC
Few modern scholars are of the opinion that the Gospel authors were eyewitnesses to any of the events of Jesus' day. Why do you think that such is the case?
The scholars you listen to are not believers, you believe what Ehrman has to say now don't you. We have copies of the gospels from the second century so when where the originals written, the first century. That would be the time of the disciples. Like you said those people have opinions and opinions are not facts and many opinions are not worth the paper they were written on. Most people in this world that know of Shakespeare believe that the writings we have are originals, nope they are not, not only that there is great doubt that the man that wrote those plays is of the name Shakespeare.
GC
(March 2, 2019 at 1:55 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(March 2, 2019 at 4:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Really, I mean what do you expect me to say,I expect you to say how you KNOW that.
The answer was in my post, the Bible.
(March 2, 2019 at 4:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: you know the answer.
Abaddon_ire Wrote:No I don't. Not until you answer.
You should have it was in my post, but since it alluded you I gave the answer above.
(March 2, 2019 at 4:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Just because you are convinced the Bible is fiction doesn't make it so.
GC
Abaddon_ire Wrote:Not unless I can demonstrate it to be fiction, sure. Except that I can. Anyone can who is willing to expend the effort. You clearly are not willing to expend the effort preferring your invulnerable security blanket.
No you can't, people have tried for a couple thousand years and no one has proven the Bible wrong. Don't you think that that would have been enough time, apparently not though since you believe you are more qualified than those in the past or present.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.