(March 5, 2019 at 12:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(March 5, 2019 at 12:10 pm)Yonadav Wrote: These people should have had the decency to get themselves killed. Is he claiming that he was brainwashed? What story is he telling?
It was a mistake. He was hot headed when he went. But he claims he wasn't a fighter, just "a guard".
Yet he burned his NZ passport and called on others to attack ANZAC Day parades (our equivalent to Veterans' Day).
That should immediately get him banned from the country. Otherwise repatriate him and set him up on White Island (a volcanic island off the NZ coast).
Yeah, to me it seems pretty cut and dry that these people relinquished their citizenship when they joined ISIS. Especially in light of the fact that they voluntarily burned their passports. Hoda Muthana posted a picture of herself holding her US passport with a caption saying that it was going on the bonfire soon. I don't know what the NZ law is, but in the US you forfeit your citizenship when you join the military of a nation that is engaged in hostilities with the US. A technical argument can be made that since we don't recognize ISIS as a nation, then joining their forces don't count as joining the military of a hostile nation; but that would be total rubbish. ISIS considers itself to be a sovereign nation, and these people who join them consider them to be a sovereign nation. Intent is everything, here. These people intended to join the forces of a hostile nation. So they forfeited their citizenship.
Here's the US law about US citizens joining the military forces of foreign nations.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/...rvice.html
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