"Hail Satan?" (2019)

[EgoDeath]

Satanism is very Machiavellian, and definitely focuses on the selfish wants and hedonistic enjoyment of the self over feigned altruism. You are a good friend because you personally like having friends, not because someone says it's the right way to behave.

I wouldn't say the two are mutually exclusive, but you're along the right lines. It's almost as if you've actually read up on Satanism a bit. Imagine that @Belaqua !

The satanic movements in France that I've studied were clear about their opposition to mainstream culture of the time. They rejected standards of success as measured by wealth, status, comfort, etc. 

It's impossible to imagine them asking to put up an expensive effigy in a government building, as if their desire was to be accepted by the mainstream they were rejecting. 

So I'm not asking for some absolute definition of success; I'm asking what those people in the movie trailer count as success. I don't know why that would be difficult. You used the word "successful" so I thought you'd have some clear idea as to what you meant. Is their definition in opposition to American values in general? 

When you say you know successful satanists, does this mean they have healthy relationships and a nice house? Or does it mean, along the lines of Baudelaire, that they live in extreme states of emotion, don't care at all what the government thinks of them, and die young? 

Think of Roland Barthes' Mythologies, or Baudrillard's talk about simulacra. They showed how most forms of rebellion in our time only serve to reconstruct mainstream values in new ways. If you believe that the satanists in the movie trailer aren't doing this, I'd be grateful to hear about it.

What is your obsession with Satanism being some rejection of mainstream culture?

Once again, a clear indication that you have no clue what you're talking about.

This is interesting to hear. It's very different from the French "inverted Catholicism" types that I've read about

Woah! What a surprise that you're not familiar with a very basic Satanic concept. Holy shit.

I think we're done here, bud. You've demonstrated what I thought to be true to be actually true: you're talking out of your ass.

Read The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey and read The Satanic Scriptures by Peter Gilmore. Start there. Or don't, I don't care. But then, MAYBE then, you'll begin to have a rudimentary grasp on what Satanism is. And maybe you still disagree with it, which is totally fine! There's a lot in Satanism I don't agree with; I can't say I consider myself a Satanist. But to sit here and discredit an entire philosophy while not being read up on that philosophy a is a fucking joke.