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Help me identify a Christian saint
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RE: Help me identify a Christian saint
For completeness, hell and the devil as we see them today have more to do with dante and n. european paganism than greek myth.

Allow me to introduce you to Hel.

Quote:n the Poetic Edda, Prose Edda, and Heimskringla, Hel is referred to as a daughter of Loki. In the Prose Edda book Gylfaginning, Hel is described as having been appointed by the god Odin as ruler of a realm of the same name, located in Niflheim. In the same source, her appearance is described as half blue and half flesh-coloured and further as having a gloomy, downcast appearance. The Prose Edda details that Hel rules over vast mansions with many servants in her underworld realm and plays a key role in the attempted resurrection of the god Baldr.
-and it's no coincidence that satan as depicted in med art (and believed) commonly took the form of a blue chimeara who was appointed by the high god yahweh to babysit a portion of the dead along with his many demonic minions in the underworld.

Allegedly, Hel met satan, and said, in effect, bitch get out my house.
Quote:The Old English Gospel of Nicodemus, preserved in two manuscripts from the 11th century, contains a female figure referred to as Seo hell who engages in flyting with Satan and tells him to leave her dwelling (Old English ut of mynre onwununge). Regarding Seo Hell in the Old English Gospel of Nicodemus, Michael Bell states that "her vivid personification in a dramatically excellent scene suggests that her gender is more than grammatical, and invites comparison with the Old Norse underworld goddess Hel and the Frau Holle of German folklore, to say nothing of underworld goddesses in other cultures" yet adds that "the possibility that these genders are merely grammatical is strengthened by the fact that an Old Norse version of Nicodemus, possibly translated under English influence, personifies Hell in the neutral (Old Norse þat helvíti)."[34]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(being)

It's phenomenon called cultural contamination. We've seen it play out in modern (and importantly, historical and well documented) times - notable examples being westward continental expansion and the wartime pacific islands.
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Help me identify a Christian saint - by Fake Messiah - March 10, 2019 at 6:25 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by brewer - March 10, 2019 at 9:21 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by Gwaithmir - March 10, 2019 at 11:02 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by Fake Messiah - March 27, 2019 at 1:42 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by brewer - March 27, 2019 at 8:35 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by Fake Messiah - March 28, 2019 at 7:19 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by Succubus - March 27, 2019 at 3:16 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by ignoramus - March 27, 2019 at 3:00 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2019 at 3:14 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by Fake Messiah - March 27, 2019 at 2:23 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by onlinebiker - March 27, 2019 at 4:57 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by chimp3 - March 27, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by onlinebiker - March 27, 2019 at 5:49 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by TwoKnives99 - March 27, 2019 at 6:02 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by onlinebiker - March 27, 2019 at 7:58 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by TwoKnives99 - March 28, 2019 at 1:53 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by onlinebiker - March 28, 2019 at 2:47 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by fredd bear - March 27, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by Little lunch - March 28, 2019 at 5:11 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by brewer - March 28, 2019 at 8:00 am
RE: Help me identify a Christian saint - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2019 at 10:31 am

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