RE: Is God Altruistic? Is God Happy?
April 16, 2019 at 6:47 am
(This post was last modified: April 16, 2019 at 6:49 am by Rogue.)
(April 15, 2019 at 11:40 am)Drich Wrote:(April 4, 2019 at 7:58 am)Rogue Wrote: That would make them potential children of God. Satan belongs to God too or you have two gods instead of One. Otherwise, where did Satan come from?
No I have never heard Christ speak. I have only read claims of claims of claims of claims of claims of claims of him making claims.
The best part of being an atheist is not believing in demons either.
Does God care for satan? In your understanding of the supposed bond between creating someone and loving them, is assigning someone to the biblically described Hell "caring or loving someone?" I and everyone else (besides you) on this planet and in heaven above, and in hell below would say no. Hell is not a place where God shows his love to those he casts into hell. Satan being chief among them..
Therefore there must be a disconnect between those in whom God loves, and in those in whom God hates. Altruism of God here is shown not in either of these two groups but for everyone else sitting on the fence in whom have not dedicated themselves to God. In that these people do not belong to God and yet God had extended the gift of salvation to them, and even before they become his, he promises to send the Holy Spirit to teach them. this gift of the SPirit is far better than any thing we have on this planet. it is the supreme gift. and it is accessed by you if you simply seek the truth. even if you don't the offer is there. Again altruism is not about you accepting the gift, but rather me offering it despite any connection to you. Again John 3:16 God so loved the world that to all he gives his only son. That is the gift given to all. now for those who take up this offer God gives more.. ever lasting life and direct relationship and communication through further spiritual fruits and gifts. However even if you do not accept, the offer remains. despite what you do with it.
Now, how does that hide of yours feel? firmly tanned? soundly trounced? well beaten? or do you want me togo further?
If you are feeling petulant or obtuse then know you have to first Show God loves all of his creation which according to your last argument includes satan, and everyone he places in Hell. I've shown a clear disconnect between the Hell bound an the followers of God, meaning even if technically God creates everyone it is clear he does not love everyone. (God created the devil, but did not create those in whom the devil spawns/ his seed his followers as pointed out by my last post) That is the hump you must over come if you want to try and stay on topic.
Or you could cop out and say I'm an atheist where your proof in all of this anyway..
It's a choose your own adventure thread which direction will you go?
and now....
Since God decides who goes to Hell, he owns you. That means God is not altruistic.
Belief in a Cruel God makes a Crueler Man. Thomas Paine with minor edit crueler instead of cruel.