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Christian utopia?
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RE: Christian utopia?
(May 14, 2019 at 3:04 pm)CDF47 Wrote: People will always be corrupt.  It is in the very nature of being human.  There is no perfect man ruled utopia.  A free state with a constituion of guaranteed rights is the best we can hope for.

That's why secularism came to be. Religious laws are too dodgy to settle down civil disputes in a reasonable way. It was well-know from the pre-Christian times. It all began with the rich wanting to secure their wealth and position from the Priests but gradually secularization became more widespread.
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Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 14, 2019 at 1:51 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by prhill - May 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Aegon - May 14, 2019 at 2:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by tackattack - May 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Aegon - May 14, 2019 at 2:37 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by vulcanlogician - May 14, 2019 at 6:55 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 2:45 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 3:18 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 3:10 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:13 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:04 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 3:17 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:20 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 14, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 14, 2019 at 9:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 9:04 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 1:34 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 1:58 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 3:33 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by onlinebiker - May 14, 2019 at 3:36 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 4:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 4:15 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 5:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 5:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 5:32 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 5:34 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 8:57 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by vulcanlogician - May 14, 2019 at 10:02 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 11:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by vulcanlogician - May 16, 2019 at 11:18 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 14, 2019 at 9:51 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2019 at 9:29 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 15, 2019 at 12:59 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 1:24 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by brewer - May 15, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 15, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by brewer - May 15, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 1:36 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by brewer - May 15, 2019 at 4:15 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 15, 2019 at 6:42 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 15, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 15, 2019 at 1:21 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 15, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 2:06 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 2:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 15, 2019 at 2:17 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 2:44 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 16, 2019 at 3:23 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 16, 2019 at 12:42 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 4:24 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 15, 2019 at 4:32 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 15, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 16, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 16, 2019 at 11:48 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 17, 2019 at 8:59 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 17, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 16, 2019 at 12:37 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 16, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2019 at 4:44 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 17, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 20, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Jackalope - May 20, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by tackattack - May 20, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2019 at 2:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Jackalope - May 20, 2019 at 2:43 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by tackattack - May 20, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Rev. Rye - May 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 20, 2019 at 11:16 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Silver - May 21, 2019 at 12:50 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 21, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 24, 2019 at 3:12 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 24, 2019 at 11:23 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 23, 2019 at 9:34 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 23, 2019 at 10:48 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 12:35 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 23, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 23, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 5:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 24, 2019 at 11:13 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2019 at 11:16 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 24, 2019 at 12:54 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by LadyForCamus - May 24, 2019 at 8:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 28, 2019 at 9:51 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by LadyForCamus - May 28, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 29, 2019 at 10:33 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Divinity - May 29, 2019 at 11:01 am

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