RE: The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins
May 29, 2019 at 10:09 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2019 at 10:19 am by Drich.)
(May 28, 2019 at 4:16 pm)madog Wrote:and I've shown you where the bible say the exodus of the garden happened 6000 years ago, so again douche if you are looking to topple the idea of the jews stealing the origins or flood story you have to have a religion older than 6000 years... Not the zondervan's whatevers as their oldest book was from the 1850s. you need a 6000 year old document stone tablet or something.. along those lines..(May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: how many year was it between adam and eve and the establishment of jerusalem?Lets work this out ...
Scholars believe the first human settlements in Jerusalem took place during the Early Bronze Age—somewhere around 3500 B.C.
Ken Ham considers the earth is 6,000 years old
Gets out calculator ...
Sorry this is only an estimation
(May 28, 2019 at 4:16 pm)madog Wrote:and I've shown you where the bible say the exodus of the garden happened 6000 years ago, so again douche if you are looking to topple the idea of the jews stealing the origins or flood story you have to have a religion older than 6000 years... Not the zondervan's whatevers as their oldest book was from the 1850s. you need a 6000 year old document stone tablet or something.. along those lines..(May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: how many year was it between adam and eve and the establishment of jerusalem?Lets work this out ...
Scholars believe the first human settlements in Jerusalem took place during the Early Bronze Age—somewhere around 3500 B.C.
Ken Ham considers the earth is 6,000 years old
Gets out calculator ...
Sorry this is only an estimation
(May 28, 2019 at 5:28 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:Grod...(May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: Glob...
how many year was it between adam and eve and the establishment of jerusalem?
roughly between 3500 and 4500 years...
Now do you understand the reasoning for this question/time line?
Judaism was not a religion till after the exodus of the jews which means even while in captivity in egypt the people who would become jews would in egypt not be known as jews nor would their religion be known as even abraham was not a jew. his religion or his father religion was that of the ancient sumerians... Meaning If God chose abraham to be the father of his people then it would make sense that his [lineage] be traced back through a given people which again would carry the same stories and tellings of their God from the time of adam and eve back.
Meaning you are not looking for a religion older than judaism you are look for a religion older than adam and eve. 4000 to 6000 bc.
A likely hypothesis, indeed. However, it does not address the OP or the discussion I'm presently having with the fundie/creationist. Are there extant texts showing parallels between the Babylonian or Sumerian texts and those of Genesis, specifically the first man and woman? Citations needed.
(since glob was no help)
ok.. let say Man lived outside the garden for millions of years. and 6000 years ago Adam exited the garden. and Adam and his kin bring stories of this God and life in the garden.. Now understand they do not bring this story t the jews as the jews are not a people yet and won't be for another 4500 or so years... So who are adam and eve telling about this God? The ancient sumerians and babylonians.. which agin makes since because the line of adam is traced to abraham... now look closely because this is where you got lost last time.
Because abraham is a known descendant of adam via the genealogies, and we know Abraham father was a idol maker in the land of Ur a Sumerian city would it not again for the previous descendants of adam Abraham's for father who lived in ur and the surrounding cities of ancient sumeria share the stories of adam and eve the tower the great flood? If these things where 100% real to thee people why would they not share? it is not like they had their own nation, people or religion... it was simply a big family at that point.
So again WHY Wouldn't the ancient sumerians put these stories in their religion? why wouldn't they try and assimilate this God into their own collective?
