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[Serious] An Argument For Ethical Egoism
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RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism
(June 16, 2019 at 7:16 am)SenseMaker007 Wrote: Premise 1: Moral realism is true in some form. There are objective moral values and there must be some things that are objectively right and wrong to do.

Premise 2: Psychological egoism is true. We are ultimately only capable of acting within our own self-interest because even, what on the surface appears to be, selfless acts ultimately benefit the self in some way.

Premise 3: Ought implies can. It makes no sense to say that we ought to do or avoid doing something that we can't.

Conclusion: Ethical Egoism is true.

Rev got me thinking. Does the conclusion follow from the premises here? I don't think it does.

"Ethical egoism is true" IFF "The morally correct action is the action done in self interest." I don't think any of the premises proves this.

I think premise 2 is false but even if it's true it doesn't support the conclusion. Let's assume that psychological egoism is true. Hedonistic utilitarianism may also be true, and thus, a moral agent ought to select (among the various self interested actions he may take) those actions that maximize pleasure and happiness.

Even assuming we are limited to self interested actions, that doesn't make ethical egoism true.
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An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by SenseMaker007 - June 16, 2019 at 7:16 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by SenseMaker007 - June 16, 2019 at 3:48 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 16, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 16, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by tackattack - June 16, 2019 at 3:00 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2019 at 4:46 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by SenseMaker007 - June 16, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by SenseMaker007 - June 16, 2019 at 5:53 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2019 at 5:34 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 16, 2019 at 5:53 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 16, 2019 at 7:28 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by SenseMaker007 - June 17, 2019 at 5:36 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2019 at 8:15 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 16, 2019 at 10:40 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2019 at 9:29 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Rev. Rye - June 17, 2019 at 4:55 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 17, 2019 at 10:55 pm
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Rev. Rye - June 18, 2019 at 12:36 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by vulcanlogician - June 18, 2019 at 2:51 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by Rev. Rye - June 18, 2019 at 8:50 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by tackattack - June 18, 2019 at 9:08 am
RE: An Argument For Ethical Egoism - by SenseMaker007 - June 19, 2019 at 5:00 am

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