RE: The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins
June 18, 2019 at 12:38 pm
(This post was last modified: June 18, 2019 at 12:40 pm by Drich.)
(June 14, 2019 at 3:00 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Drich,
Absolutely no one in Western scholarship, save a handful of religious fundamentalists, thinks as you do, and even within that tiny minority, many of your ideas would be viewed as being absurd.
Dawn
How is this an insult?
"Our ways are not his ways our thoughts are not his thoughts..." Meaning if the majority of our thoughts are "x" concerning God and this religion, they are wrong.
Example most churches think they are the only one true christian religion. Some even say you will go to hell if you pick the wrong church. and they cut up the bible and take a verse peice from here and there and paste these fragments together to construct a new point.
What do i teach how am I different? I used a whole contextual chapter to counter this teaching, and compare each church as a different part of the body just like the bible teaches I NEVER cut the bible up into one or two verse blubers and paste them together to make a point. I always used whole paragraphs if not chapter or even whole books to make the points I teach. In that you are right, because no religion does that! why? because 95% believe if read straight though there are contextual problems. So people read around the bits that seem to contradict and pair like verses together which is why you get a preacher shouting out 5 different verses from 5 different books to make one point.
Rather than try and reconcile them. which btw is beyond human understanding to do so. Why? because most people read the bible wrong. they putt too much into book chapter and verse to complete ideas for them. when ifact some ideas stop before the end of the verse while others go into other chapters.
Genesis 1 and 2 are this way. genesis 1 bleeds 4 verses into genesis 2. Meaning the first 4 verses of chapter 2 should be the last 4 of chapter 1 meaning if you read gen 1:1 the story of the seven day creation/population of the planet ends in genesis 2 verse 4. you don't have to be a scholar to see that. gen 1 takes about 6 of the 7 days in full detail from the start of the day to the end of the day. All except day 7 which ends on chapter 2:4
This means chapter 2:5 should be the beginning of the new chapter.. but it is not. why? because it tell a different creation. many confuse this with an alternate version of what chapter one tells us but if you just read it gives us a reference or time line which chapter 2 takes place. Meaning chapter 2 tell of the creation of the garden only which happened middle of day three to mid day 4 Jesus (is the one doing the creating here in chapter 2) create the garden and everything in it apart from what father God in chapter 1 does.
So right there in the bible you have two thing going on at the same time the creation of the garden, and man with a soul all complete by the middle of day 4. while God creates man per chapter 1 outside of the garden day 6..
So complete man with a soul get created by Jesus apart from the chapter 1 narrative and is placed in the garden
Then man outside of the garden was created day 6.. now we know man outside of the garden according to science and the fossil record had to evolve. no disputing that with you people correct? no. so the next question should be is does the bible say anything that would prevent God's day 6 version of man evolve over time? no.
The only thing the bible mandates is adam and eve are exiled from the garden 6000 years ago.
So next question would be is there anything in the bible that says adam and eve could not remain in the garden for the trillions of years man needed to evolve? There is no time line set between verse 2 and verse 3. tradition simply mandates the fall happens within days of the garden being built.. but there is nothing in the bible that supports this traditional understanding. it is just what is blindly believed.
So is there anything in the bible anywhere that could limit adam's time in the garden? in chapter 6 I believe it is said adam lived 190 years ON THIS EARTH.
How can this be reconciled? because the time adam spent in the garden he was a different creature he was immortal. we know this because he had access to the tree of life which gave him immortality. Plus God promised if you eat of the tree of knowledge you will surly die. Adam and eve both died as a result their immortal beings died and the clock of their eternal time with God stopped. Then their new post garden life started 6000 years ago with evolved man with no soul. As per chapter 2 man created in the garden was given a soul while man out side did not have a soul.
This simple contextual reading SOLVES ALL of the atheist most popular contradictions. S
where did the city come from that cain fled too?
Who did adam's children marry and where given unto marriage?
the answer is evolved man.
again without changing a single word of genesis or change a word of evolution we can assimilate the whole of science into the 7 day creation.
is the road to destruction, narrow is the path to understanding and salvation.
I guess when you grow up in a single race everyone demands you must think and act like other members of your group. and when one of you is out of line, they are frown upon and looked down upon.
(June 14, 2019 at 11:51 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: See Drich? but as always, FSM foretold this and was once again correct. I'm sorry you follow a false Idol.
It is very clear all you can do is fidget and delve again and again into Ad hominin attacks. This is the mark of anger. Anger welling up because you know you're wrong, your faith to be a lie and now as you see the veracity, and eternal holy truths I present, All you can do is verbally soil yourself.
As always I pray for you.
Endless blessings. RAmen.
Before I finish lunch I'm putting up a straw poll
https://www.strawpoll.me/18165863/r
Who has the correct and true faith?
Is it I who bring the endless love, acceptance and harmony of Pastafarianism or Drich who reaches deep within his rectum to sling hatred, anger and disorder with his twisted version of christianity?
what do you mean false idol? i quoted your profit and I asked you to provide book chapter and verse to your supposed creation event. because the fsm book you linked me two does not support your reading of it
