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Choosing who you are
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 19, 2019 at 5:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: A man and a woman are a collection of traits, but that collection of traits is not the same collection of traits that determine whether a person is male or female.

No, insisting that you acknowledge another persons existence is not in any way oppressing you.  Complaining that it is actually does oppress them, though.

What you're saying is true if we didn\t count the recent modern understanding of the human DNA, and how the male/female traits are literally written in our bodies.

Everything we are going to be physically is written in our DNA before we are even capable of choosing anything.

Everything our personality would become is shared between our DNA and the environment.

A male doesn't become a female unless they decide personally to alter their genes. Their personality wouldn't change unless they take the choice to change it also.

I don't mean to oppress anybody, but stating what genes are should never be considered oppressing to anybody.

(June 20, 2019 at 2:37 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 19, 2019 at 5:56 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: No; it's not about the looks. A man or a woman are a collection of traits; physical appearance is one of the traits, but so many traits exist and most are psychological and mental.
A male will not function as a female due to natural selection, their bodies will betray them, that goes for women too. It's not about the looks only; the looks are a mere trait.


How do you know this?

You don't even know what being transsexual means. It means that you are born with the mental traits of a different gender to that of your body.

Many -if not all- of our psychological traits are influenced greatly by the DNA we are born with; this link has  some interesting explanation:

https://www.scienceofpeople.com/much-per...y-genetic/

For example, if I have a problem with socializing, I would blame a part of the problem on my DNA.

Being a transexual is going around this dilemma of natural selection, and favoring personal choice over the DNA. Thus, hormones,chemicals,drugs and sometimes even surgery are taken to battle the DNA choice.

Quote:Believe me, you're wrong in thinking that you will always spot one. There are many transsexuals who can blend in and who can exist and function as their non-assigned gender without anyone ever realising. The trick is to transition early enough if you a transwoman before the testosterone makes too many permanent changes.

Your whole argument is based not on direct experience, or even knowingly speaking to transsexuals or learning about what the condition is, but about what transsexuals you've seen while watching porn.


But what's the price; Mathilda? yes; you can suppress the DNA but it shortens the lifespan of the person; where I know is that trans people have shorter lifespans due to the drugs and chemicals.

Wishing to be a member of the opposite sex might be lovely as a thought; but it remains a fantasy for people who want change. Natural selection is stronger, and the laws of this universe are very tough -and written in our own bodies; too-. One can suppress their DNA instructions to the cells for a short period, but a relapse must follow.

I know that transexuals are only people who wanted to be members of the opposite sex. But I also know that I want to dive without drowning, and defying the DNA -as I understand it- is similar to plastic surgery: it witnesses a relapse. It's not as easy to manipulate like a computer software.
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Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 4, 2019 at 11:53 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Alan V - June 4, 2019 at 12:35 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 4, 2019 at 1:08 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 17, 2019 at 10:04 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 17, 2019 at 12:38 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 18, 2019 at 7:55 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by LastPoet - June 18, 2019 at 11:30 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 19, 2019 at 9:08 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 19, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 20, 2019 at 2:37 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by vulcanlogician - June 4, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Aegon - June 4, 2019 at 1:43 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by Nay_Sayer - June 4, 2019 at 3:03 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Gawdzilla Sama - June 4, 2019 at 3:44 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 4, 2019 at 5:56 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 4, 2019 at 6:15 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 4, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by SlowCalculations - June 8, 2019 at 12:50 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 8, 2019 at 1:54 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 4, 2019 at 10:50 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 5, 2019 at 12:08 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2019 at 6:43 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2019 at 7:40 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2019 at 7:57 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 10:05 am
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RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2019 at 7:24 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2019 at 7:40 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 4, 2019 at 10:09 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2019 at 7:00 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 7:39 am
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RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 4, 2019 at 9:10 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2019 at 9:29 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 4, 2019 at 10:57 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 4, 2019 at 10:59 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 5, 2019 at 9:52 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Gawdzilla Sama - June 7, 2019 at 8:45 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Sal - June 4, 2019 at 9:17 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by Little lunch - June 4, 2019 at 9:28 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 4, 2019 at 10:47 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Athene - June 4, 2019 at 11:43 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Losty - June 5, 2019 at 5:48 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2019 at 8:29 am
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RE: Choosing who you are - by Mister Agenda - June 5, 2019 at 9:35 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 5, 2019 at 10:37 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 11:11 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 5, 2019 at 11:28 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 12:39 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Athene - June 5, 2019 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2019 at 1:30 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 3:03 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2019 at 3:16 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 5, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2019 at 1:55 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2019 at 2:01 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2019 at 2:31 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 5, 2019 at 2:12 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 5, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 5, 2019 at 4:09 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Aegon - June 5, 2019 at 4:29 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Losty - June 5, 2019 at 3:45 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 5, 2019 at 6:18 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 5, 2019 at 10:22 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Athene - June 6, 2019 at 9:43 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 6, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 6, 2019 at 7:25 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 6, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Athene - June 6, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 6, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by LastPoet - June 6, 2019 at 12:17 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 6, 2019 at 3:21 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 7, 2019 at 2:32 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 7, 2019 at 7:45 am
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RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 7, 2019 at 12:32 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 7, 2019 at 1:54 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 8, 2019 at 8:07 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 8, 2019 at 8:15 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 8, 2019 at 8:25 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 8, 2019 at 3:17 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 8, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 10, 2019 at 4:10 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by SenseMaker007 - June 11, 2019 at 9:23 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 11, 2019 at 11:37 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Anomalocaris - June 17, 2019 at 8:19 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by SenseMaker007 - June 18, 2019 at 4:59 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Gawdzilla Sama - June 18, 2019 at 6:34 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Sal - June 18, 2019 at 7:50 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Gawdzilla Sama - June 18, 2019 at 8:12 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by SenseMaker007 - June 11, 2019 at 11:58 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 17, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 17, 2019 at 7:20 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 17, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by LastPoet - June 18, 2019 at 7:14 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Gawdzilla Sama - June 18, 2019 at 7:28 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by LastPoet - June 18, 2019 at 7:40 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Drich - June 18, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Drich - June 19, 2019 at 12:54 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2019 at 1:12 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2019 at 5:59 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 22, 2019 at 2:59 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 22, 2019 at 3:36 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 22, 2019 at 4:15 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 22, 2019 at 5:44 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 22, 2019 at 6:04 am

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