The Simple Truth about Light

[LadyForCamus]

So much for a casual joke, but ok we can take this down a serious thread.

I fail to see that in any of the Abrahamic religions. Can you show me how Christianity does?

Sure, look up sanctification. It's a really common Christian dictate.

I don't think you quite grasp the concept of either "higher" or "wishful thinking".   Allow me to illustrate the concepts with examples:

For example:

Believing there is a sky daddy isn't higher than wishful thinking.   It is wishful thinking and rather lower than most other variety of wishful thinking.

Believing morality will be given down onto you isn't higher than wishful thinking   It is wishful thinking and rather lower than most other variety of wishful thinking.

Feeling truth is buttressed by a poll of the less educated and informed isn't higher than wishful thinking   It is wishful thinking and rather lower than most other variety of wishful thinking.

Feeling religion is or ever can be anything other than wishful thinking isn't higher than wishful thinking   It is wishful thinking and rather lower than most other variety of wishful thinking.

regardless of whether you find the underlying beliefs tenable or factual, they are beliefs. It's only wishful if it isn't true.

The question is, do you find your underlying beliefs tenable and factual, or is it a matter of faith? If your belief is faith-based, then you’re tacitly admitting you have no sound reason to believe them, which would be indistinguishable from wishful thinking.

It is only lower than other wishful thinking if it has less positive effects.

What do you mean by, “lower”? Could you provide an example? I’d say the negative effects of religion on the world as a whole all but obliterates any positive effects it may have for any single individual.

The belief itself also has material tools (dogma, Bible, doctrine) to tie it to reality, making it not wishful.

So does Islam. Do you consider Islam anything more than the wishful thinking of Muslims borne of a book and a set of rules that have been taught to them?