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Do you miss anyone axed by metoo?
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RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo?
(July 29, 2019 at 7:05 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If you miss serial sex offenders you need a better scope.

So, are we not allowed to consider the severity of their offenses? I can certainly recall times where I made a female uncomfortable by advances I made. I then chose to stop making said advances, but I can definitely remember "creeping out" a girl or two, especially in my high school days when I wasn't so attuned to socializing with women. I've since learned how to better gauge people's interest in me and have since avoided such uncomfortable scenarios, but should I be chastised and lambasted forever for making a girl or two uncomfortable? Or am I allowed to learn from that and continue on with my life?

Are we not allowed to consider whether or not they've paid their penance? At what point is a person allowed to continue to make a living and be at peace in the public eye after having such a scandal?

Before you can even try it, no, this is not victim-shaming. This is not down-playing what happened/happens to victims of sexual abuse. One can feel complete empathy for the victim(s) of such acts and still ask such questions. It's not downplaying any of that. It simply isn't. It's being allowed to ask, "How severe was this situation? Does this person deserve forgiveness, at some point? If so, when? And what does that forgiveness look like?"

Trying to paint this stuff in black and white does no favors for anyone, especially the victims themselves. Should we compare the victims of, let's say, Louis C.K. to that of Harvey Weinstein, we'll see that there are different dynamics at play. There are probably similar dynamics as well (abuse of power, or perceived power, over victims), but there are still different ones. It's a different circumstance and a different person committing a different act of sexual assault.

Are we allowed to ask questions about those differences?

It seems you'd say no.

I, for one, would love to see a new special from Louis, especially after all this time. And while I would like to believe that he at least tried to apologize or make things right (if that's possible) with his victims, I cannot know that for sure. And to be honest, it's none of my damn business. I just think he's a funny comedian.

That you try to paint people as "bad" or morally defunct for wanting to see certain people return is only a poor attempt at virtue-signaling and trying to prove to everyone how much better than them you are. And, to be honest, it's tiring.

Making an unwanted comment or flirting with someone who isn't interested is NOT the same as sexual assault. Can we at least agree on that? At what point does someone become a "victim?" I think it's a question worth asking. I've had plenty of woman make advances toward me that I felt were inappropriate and, quite honestly, they made me feel damn uncomfortable. I remember at a job I used to have I used to actively avoid this one lady because she constantly told me I was "handsome" and she wanted to "hook me up" with her daughter. She even tried to take pictures of me to send to her daughter and I literally had to physically turn away from her and block the camera with my hand.

Was I a victim of sexual assault? Or did some creepy older lady just make me feel uncomfortable? I'd say the latter. I choose not to call myself a victim because, to be honest, this specific situation wasn't that big of a deal. Just sort of odd. That being said, actual sexual assault IS a big deal. But even then, are we allowed to ask when someone has paid their penance? Can people like this ever be forgiven?

Personally, I couldn't care less if I never saw Kevin Spacey's face again. But Louis Ck? Sure, I'd like to see another special from him. He's a funny guy.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Fake Messiah - July 29, 2019 at 10:33 am
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Rev. Rye - July 29, 2019 at 11:34 am
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by GUBU - July 31, 2019 at 5:22 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by LadyForCamus - July 29, 2019 at 2:30 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 5:18 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Aegon - July 30, 2019 at 6:44 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by EgoDeath - July 30, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Rev. Rye - July 29, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by brewer - July 29, 2019 at 7:00 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by The Valkyrie - July 29, 2019 at 7:05 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Shell B - July 29, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by The Valkyrie - July 29, 2019 at 8:55 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Rev. Rye - July 29, 2019 at 7:17 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by chimp3 - July 29, 2019 at 8:10 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Sal - July 29, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by EgoDeath - July 29, 2019 at 9:13 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by no one - July 29, 2019 at 9:24 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by EgoDeath - July 30, 2019 at 5:54 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Rev. Rye - July 29, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by no one - July 29, 2019 at 10:18 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by BryanS - July 30, 2019 at 10:37 pm
RE: Do you miss anyone axed by metoo? - by Grandizer - July 31, 2019 at 10:05 am

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