(July 31, 2019 at 12:22 pm)Drich Wrote:(July 31, 2019 at 10:41 am)Brian37 Wrote: "Truce" is about war, not logic.indeed. So what do you think was the reason 2/3 of the christians leaving here was all about if not a suspension of logic and a declaration of all out war on them via personal attack?
Go back and read my initial thread "so what happened"? This demonstrates logic has been suspended for a personal war waged often time by multiple atheist bullies against one christian and it does not matter who that christian was/is they are personally and verbally brutalized till they want nothing to do with theis website anymore.
My call to a terms was an attempt to bring the more logical to terms or open their eyes to what they have become. Right now a it sits I am more aligned with scientific fact and logic than any of the ad hoc responders that I have been bombarded by.
Quote:The world does not need more war.agree.
Quote:But sorry Drich, I won't shy away from anyone of any religion making claims based on old mythology. I have no desire to have anyone arrested because I think they don't need religion. And I certainly welcome any non violent individual into my community, but that does not mean I am obligated to accept old claims and never challenge them.fine sentiment... show me the last time logic and reason was employed to do what you have described here... These are all great talking points but it does not seem that you all know how to apply them as far as I and those who were chased out have seen.
Quote:I can value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, Ann Frank, and Malala, and disagree with where any of them would claim our species behaviors come from. I love my late mother who was a Catholic and died a Catholic, but she knew my position, she knew I argued that she didn't need her religion.what about catholic lady neo scholastic A-theist or any of the others that are gone because of the lack of the respect you would offer strangers. There was a bevy of topic these guys would get into and it always seemed to end the same way.
Quote:You piss me off Drich, but unless you were physically assaulting me, or passing laws to have me arrested, I still would not leave you bleeding in the streets if you got into a car accident.That's funny I see almost all of you like lost brothers, and would do anything in my power to help you find your way home. yes I get angry but that never lasts beyond the paragraph i responded to.
Quote:I also think Malala got it wrong. Islam isn't the source for female rights, anymore than Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism. I value human empathy, like that of Sammy Davis Jr. I hate warmongers like Trump and Bibi. I could care what one's religion is.Rights... are an illusion, they are the chains that bind you to a specific society. You talk about rights, when there is freedom to be had. Slaves had rights in mst instances. Dogs have rights. prisoners have rights.. Men and women alike where made free by God. yet we elect to bind ourselves with morality and 'rights' to serve society as if we where it's slave.
Thanks but no thanks I think i will stick the freedom found in God.
Quote:I can accept that religion exists, and to greater or lesser degrees it always will. But my fellow humans need to STOP coddling religion and stop being afraid to change when better data comes in.
again this whole last thread was about "You good people" ignoring proven scientific data in favor for the faith you had in what you wanted to believe.
So don't pretend to presume you have a lock on facts and are not as corrupt by faith as the religious. The fact that the discussion whether they be religious or even political has devolved into a who is the loudest hater contest proves facts are taking a back burner with most of you all.
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"Faith" and "belief" are matters of opinion.
Facts however, don't give a shit what your opinion is.
If "faith" and "belief" constituted fact then Allah, and Yahweh, Buddha, Vishnu and Thor would all be true claims all at the same time.
