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Moral Oughts
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RE: Moral Oughts
(August 2, 2019 at 8:05 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: That’s a lot of noise to avoid your own criteria. You’ve indicated that you deeply care about conforming to your moral schema. If caring makes a schema subjective, then your schema is subjective.

Here’s the thing, it doesn’t. So, you don’t actually have to launch this batshit argument to save your own schema from your own objections.....but, ofc, neither does anyone else. Caring about something doesn’t make that thing subjective.

A fact remains a fact regardless of whether anyone cares about it.

There are some moral things that I care about, such as being a good dad to my children, a good husband, etc..

The are others that I don’t really care about it all, like the loss of your wallet, as indicated in my example. I don’t deeply care about it at all.

But the lack of caring here doesn’t mean, the eradication of the ought, because unlike you I see “Ought not steal” as a truth. And truth doesn’t care about my feelings.
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Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 1, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 11:49 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 11:52 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 11:56 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:04 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2019 at 12:07 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:06 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 12:07 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:14 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 12:57 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 1:26 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:31 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:45 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 2:03 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 6:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 7:06 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Belacqua - August 3, 2019 at 7:50 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:11 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:18 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 1:28 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:27 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:33 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:53 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:05 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:11 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:19 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:14 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:52 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:21 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:56 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 9:19 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 9:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 9:32 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:38 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by DLJ - August 3, 2019 at 10:01 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Abaddon_ire - August 3, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 9:51 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 9:55 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Abaddon_ire - August 8, 2019 at 6:17 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 12:15 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 7, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 1:44 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 2:07 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by DLJ - August 4, 2019 at 2:13 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 4, 2019 at 6:46 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 8:03 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 4, 2019 at 10:22 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 4, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 10:33 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2019 at 11:38 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Objectivist - August 29, 2019 at 5:59 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 6:40 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Objectivist - August 30, 2019 at 12:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 30, 2019 at 4:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 7:15 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by John 6IX Breezy - August 29, 2019 at 7:40 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:20 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 7:57 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by John 6IX Breezy - August 29, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:09 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by John 6IX Breezy - August 29, 2019 at 9:43 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:22 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:27 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:28 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:32 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:37 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:54 pm

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