(August 1, 2019 at 7:45 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(August 1, 2019 at 7:37 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Yes, I said as much a page ago that the selection of reason bit is subjective. The argument applies to me, not necessarily to you. But I've given an example argument as to why I ought not to steal someone else's wallet, and it was based on facts, not opinion.
It’s based on your personal feelings, how getting getting caught by your friends would you feel bad. How much you care for their acceptance and approval.
No, it's based on the fact that I would care what my loved ones would think ...
Quote:Quote:That said, I can apply it to you as well. Even if you won't agree with the imposition.
Maybe, but I’m not a naturalist, and don’t believe in a purely physical objective/external reality. I believe in an external reality that possess qualities something like an intrinsic beauty. Elements like this that don’t exist purely as extrinsic attributes of our minds.
I guess, for me, when it comes to the ought question, I don't necessarily see it as a moral question. Ought is the imposition of "shoulds" and "musts", with a moral/practical/personal reason as justification, and that is it.
