RE: Literal and Not Literal
August 29, 2019 at 11:30 am
(This post was last modified: August 29, 2019 at 11:43 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 29, 2019 at 10:13 am)Acrobat Wrote:(August 29, 2019 at 10:05 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Your Christian beliefs powerfully depend on a literal reading.
Your Christian beliefs may not be the totality of your beliefs or even the largest component of your beliefs....but they would by necessity provide a “reason” to read genesis literally.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if the authors didn’t take it literally, because they weren’t Christians, and so they lacked the commitments of your religious position.
What Christian beliefs are those?
It's always fun to hear an atheist tell me what my Christian beliefs are?
I'm guessing given the context, you're appealing to some particular atonement theology. If so, I hate to break it to you, even among the large body of believers considered orthodox, there's no unified view of atonement among them. That you can in any meaning way say represents Christian beliefs.
Did I stutter? Your Christian beliefs. It’s a title, not a name. Anything not unified by a belief in that titles specifics is not a christian belief, just some belief held by Christians. It would be pointless to run off a list of those beliefs their differences, commitments, and mutual exclusivities.
Sure christians disagree on many things, but all Christians agree on Christ. By definition.
In my experience, atheists are particularly competent when it comes to informing Christians of the contents of their alleged beliefs, and this isn’t simply anecdotal. Study after study demonstrates that you guys don’t know your own shit as well as we know your shit.
But go ahead, tell me that there is no Christian belief that firms a reason for a literal reading. Or better, that the term Christian is itself so vacuous as to be meaningless. Tell me that you don’t see a common core of literal truth in genesis, or any other portion of magic book, particularly as it relates to Christ and mans relationship to Christ.
Or, you can just cut the bullshit and acknowledge that your “god inspired” caveat alludes to precisely this content. That neither you nor any other Christian can remove this “god inspired” content and remain, accurately and faithfully....Christian.
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