RE: It is the access!
September 3, 2019 at 12:10 pm
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2019 at 12:18 pm by Brian37.)
(September 3, 2019 at 11:45 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It’s impossible to have the simplest conversation with a person who needs you to argue mere reality into being. Doesn’t matter the subject.
It is impossible to argue with the blind whom have no interest in accepting reality.
I agree, that is outside of subject.
(September 3, 2019 at 11:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:Then your definition of " ban" is quite different from mine.
Then maybe you shouldn't redefine words to suit yourself.
Quote:In my country - when a law abiding citizen is told he isn't allowed to own guns - for no other reason than "because" -- and forces that citizen to surrender his firearms - we call that a ban.....
No law-abiding citizen in either Australia or New Zealand is ever told that he isn't allowed to own guns. Guns are indeed prohibited to certain individuals due to things like criminal record and mental instability. Some people lose their gun licenses for the same reasons.
No one ever been forced to 'surrender his firearms'. Certain types of automatic and semi-automatic weapons were banned, but this took the form of a buy-back. I'm given to understand that certain types of firearms are also banned in the US.
While I (clearly) don't agree with Brian's characterization that in the US 'guns are handed out like candy', it is obviously easier to get your hands on firearms there than it is in Australia or NZ. But anyone over the age of 16 who meets the other requirements can be licensed for air rifles, antique weapons, pistols, rifles, shotguns and semi-automatic weapons in NZ (not sure about Australia, the rules may be different).
Hardly seems like a 'ban'.
Boru
Yes firearms are handed out like candy.
It is easier to get your hands on firearms than Australia and NZ, and that is the fucking problem
If everyone agrees we should keep them out of the wrong hands, then they shouldn't be that easy to get.
And I agree keeping them out of the wrong hands is not a ban. I simply argue that prevention is best served at time of sale, not waiting until something bad happens after the sale.
Firearm companies and shop owners would not have the stigma they do if they gave a shit. But it isn't about protecting law abiding citizens, it is about protecting sales.
