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What do cigarettes cost?
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RE: What do cigarettes cost?
(September 6, 2019 at 1:22 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(September 6, 2019 at 1:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not at all.  I'm very much in favour of universal healthcare, I just don't think that voluntarily self-destructive behaviour should be a drain on the system.

If you want to smoke, then smoke.  But that shouldn't give you carte blanche to take medical resources away from other people.

Boru

I meant him!

Although now I'm curious if you think those who got lung cancer from a lifetime of smoking should be liable for their treatment costs, even if other cancers may be treated at little to no cost? (Assuming a single-payer system)
I have said several times that I am in favor of a public provided health care system - along with private practice - for those that can afford it.

Here in the US we are still stuck with the insurance company model ( for those lucky enough to have it).

Do you think the smoker should be liable for their health conditions as related to smoking?

(September 6, 2019 at 1:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 6, 2019 at 1:22 pm)Aegon Wrote: I meant him!

Although now I'm curious if you think those who got lung cancer from a lifetime of smoking should be liable for their treatment costs, even if other cancers may be treated at little to no cost? (Assuming a single-payer system)

Yes, I do think they should be so liable.  The great majority of cancers are not behaviour-caused, and the link between smoking and lung cancer is pretty well established.

At the very least, before you're allowed to buy known carcinogens which you have every option not to buy , you should be required to present an insurance card that proves you're covered.

Boru
Or (here's where it gets fun) lets just figure out per pack - what they should be paying. (The intent of this post)

Lets assume averages. A typical smoker smokes a pack a day - for say - 40 years...

Sound reasonable?
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What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 6, 2019 at 10:58 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Brian37 - September 6, 2019 at 11:13 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 11:22 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 11:44 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 12:43 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 6, 2019 at 1:12 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 1:17 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 6, 2019 at 1:22 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 1:36 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 1:36 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 2:57 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 6, 2019 at 3:04 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 3:16 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 6, 2019 at 3:36 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Valkyrie - September 6, 2019 at 5:05 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 5:17 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 1:20 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 1:33 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by arewethereyet - September 6, 2019 at 1:35 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 6, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 6, 2019 at 12:41 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 6, 2019 at 1:05 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by bemore - September 6, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 6, 2019 at 3:09 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 6, 2019 at 3:42 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 3:57 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 6, 2019 at 4:03 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 4:07 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 7, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Valkyrie - September 6, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Valkyrie - September 6, 2019 at 3:32 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by EgoDeath - September 6, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Nay_Sayer - September 6, 2019 at 7:10 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by onlinebiker - September 6, 2019 at 7:25 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by no one - September 7, 2019 at 1:23 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by LastPoet - September 7, 2019 at 3:30 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 7, 2019 at 3:43 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by LastPoet - September 8, 2019 at 4:42 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 7, 2019 at 4:24 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Little lunch - September 7, 2019 at 10:22 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Aegon - September 8, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Foxaèr - September 8, 2019 at 3:28 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 8, 2019 at 5:56 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by LastPoet - September 8, 2019 at 6:20 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 8, 2019 at 6:31 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by notimportant1234 - September 8, 2019 at 9:36 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 9, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by notimportant1234 - September 12, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Little lunch - September 9, 2019 at 8:56 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 9, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2019 at 11:29 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 9, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by LastPoet - September 10, 2019 at 8:49 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 10, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by LastPoet - September 18, 2019 at 3:39 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 19, 2019 at 12:54 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2019 at 9:41 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by WinterHold - September 10, 2019 at 11:12 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Cecelia - September 11, 2019 at 9:40 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 12, 2019 at 6:01 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by A. Secular Human - September 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: What do cigarettes cost? - by Little lunch - September 20, 2019 at 5:32 pm

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