RE: Splitting of the Moon
October 23, 2019 at 2:34 am
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2019 at 3:06 am by WinterHold.)
(October 23, 2019 at 2:07 am)Nomad Wrote: Atlas why are you so insistent on changing the meaning of the quran? I mean it's supposed to be the perfect document, yet you are insisting that the "moon split" legend is about how the moon formed rather than a story about the moon splitting down the middle on the orders of Mohammed to convert pagans, which is what the book's (9th century) writers clearly meant.
I only believe in the Quran; stories claimed in Hadith books don't represent me or my belief.
(October 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(October 22, 2019 at 7:56 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: We are close to it for 50 years now.
Computer scientists can't create single qualia.
If universe came from nothing, create another universe from nothing. Not necessarily as big as our universe, just couple of stars in it will be enough.
How does the fact the scientists are unable (yet) to create life, consciousness, or a universe, give any credence that a god is responsible for these things?
Because the process of consciousness is not even defined yet as a scientific process, the creation of life is very limited and finite; as for God being responsible: he is the deity we theists believe responsible for the haunting pattern that keeps showing in everything we discover.
Or; in other words: he is the one behind science.
(October 22, 2019 at 12:24 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: They have the classic argument from ignorance, “I don’t understand how therefore god!”
Isn't that the same exact sentence as "I don't know. Then 'no God'?
(October 22, 2019 at 12:26 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(October 22, 2019 at 12:24 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: They have the classic argument from ignorance, “I don’t understand how therefore god!”
It's arrogance. "I don't understand what you say about this, but my god has told me the real facts!"
Why does this anger you ? I mean people calling out your bullshit and simply throw your facts in the garbage in favor of another fact-sheet?
(October 22, 2019 at 12:39 pm)LastPoet Wrote: What is more jarring to me is the need these folks have to push their rather silly beliefs onto others. If anything it demonstrates a great insecurity, a desire to be an authority in myths. It shows how much of a failure in every aspect of reality they become.
Whoever pushes Islam on you is contradicting this verse:
Quote:https://quran.com/2/256?translations=
Sahih International
Sura 2, The Quran
(256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.