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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed
(October 30, 2019 at 10:34 am)Aegon Wrote:
(October 29, 2019 at 5:07 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'd take a moderate in either party or a third party. I'm not greedy. I'm just tired of extremism.

My problem is: what counts as "extremism" in America, on the left, is hilarious. People still say Obama was a communist because of the Affordable Care Act. Give me a break. Like I said, this country's discourse skews conservative. The "radical" ideas that progressives tout are legitimately not radical, and we need to drill that into people's heads.

If the false slur aimed by the rich and the far right were true, then their favorite ally Israel would also have to be considered far left knowing, in reality, they have pesky useful things like universal health care, cheap to free higher education and liberal on abortion laws as well. 

The only problem I have with my fellow liberals/progressives, isn't that they are wrong on on social and economic issues, they are on the right side of history. The only problem I have with the left are two things.

1. As voters we gave up after Reagan successfully busted the air traffic control unions. That started the erosion of what post WW2 policies set up that lead to our middle class. 

2. Our politicians since Reagan, have tripped over themselves trying to prove we were not USSR or Cuban communists, which we never were and still not are.

But it is still up to voters on the liberal side, to stop seeing one politician as a super hero with a cape when it takes long term tactics to lead the narrative and control enough of a long term majority of the House, Senate, Presidency and SCOTUS. 

It isn't enough to be right on social issues, it still matters on getting enough power in all three branches for a effective long term period to make change.

Liberals are on the right side of history. Where we self defeat is that we don't unify like the GOP has since Reagan.
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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by onlinebiker - October 28, 2019 at 8:55 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Brian37 - October 28, 2019 at 11:01 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by EgoDeath - October 29, 2019 at 12:03 am
RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Brian37 - October 29, 2019 at 7:00 am
RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by onlinebiker - October 29, 2019 at 7:20 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Aegon - October 29, 2019 at 1:17 pm
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by EgoDeath - October 29, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Aegon - October 30, 2019 at 9:21 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Brian37 - October 28, 2019 at 1:59 pm
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Shell B - October 28, 2019 at 9:18 pm
RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Anomalocaris - October 29, 2019 at 1:52 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 29, 2019 at 7:23 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Brian37 - October 29, 2019 at 7:37 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by onlinebiker - October 29, 2019 at 7:48 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Aegon - October 30, 2019 at 10:34 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Shell B - October 30, 2019 at 1:18 pm
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Mister Agenda - November 1, 2019 at 10:16 am
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RE: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed - by Aegon - November 2, 2019 at 4:07 pm
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