(October 18, 2011 at 12:43 pm)ElDinero Wrote: I saw this in another thread and thought it warranted it's own:
Quote:God has said that He will only reveal Himself to those who dilligently seek Him. So I can only point to Him:
Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
So it to you to verify this claim, and I have told you a simple way you can do that. It is surely worth your time. You say you're "pretty sure" but in actuality you don't know.
This statement is nothing more than an excuse. Anyone who hasn't 'found God' can simply be told they didn't seek him earnestly enough.
Now, since I don't see any evidence for God's existence, why would I spend time seeking it in that way? No, it isn't worth my time, because my life continues just fine without it, as does everything else, as far as I can tell. Also I would contend that it is far from 'simple'. And here's why.
I don't take things on 'faith', and I cannot control my beliefs. It states that I need to believe in him to find him, but this would require serious doublethink on my part, of which I am incapable. A few questions, then, for any theist who believes that bollocks.
1. How can I believe in something that I don't believe in, just in order to find it? And if I already believe in it, what is the point of the search in the first place?
2. How should I search for God?
3. How long will it take?
4. How will I know when I have found him?
Over to you.
To be honest, I cannot argue your points whatsoever. I used to be a "devout" Christian, reading my Bible and praying diligently on a daily basis. I have gone on numerous missions trips throughout the U.S and Central America and yet the deeper I got into my "faith," it became more and more clear that I was chasing some fantasy. If I wanted something good to happen, or for something to be accomplished, I had to do it myself, and no amount of prayer would help (even if it was something of God's will). I soon found many undeniable contradictions within the Bible and that God himself does not even follow his own standards within the Bible that he sets. I came to the point that there was no God but if there was I would not follow Him, because he was a selfish, bigoted being that murdered countless people and that did not even follow his own moral principles. Do not, waste your time searching for this God, because you will come to a point where you either lose your faith (and then get into a dark place because you feel like your life basis has been a lie) or have to put aside all rational thought to continue to believe.