Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?

[Godscreated]

Open mind, bring things to argument?

Wtf are you on, you are a closed mind, you only accept your way, and nothing would change that. We atheist would change our mind with proof, of which you never, ever bring anything to the table.

'Facing the reality of Christ', you make no sense you deluded idiot. Time for you to take your meds and come back with hard evidence.

The best thing about science btw is that it is neutral, it is just a search of truths and facts. You and your mob are biased.

Check out the Starry Night program NASA uses, this is the program that was used to show how the Star of Bethlehem is possible. NASA counts on this program to to land spacecraft on Mars and to put them in orbit around other planets. When you feel that your grown up enough to handle the truth check it out. Also thanks for proving what I said.

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IF the "star of Bethlehem" was an actual real astronomical event why then do you assume it was a magic man's doing? Why have you ruled out a supernova?



If Betelgeuse should explode within our lifetimes will you interpret that as Christ's second cumming? Note "coming" deliberately misspelled since no such historical figure ever actually arrived in the first place.

I'll just ignore such a childish act. The reason that God has everything to do with the Star of Bethlehem, He knew when to send His Son into the world so that it could be documented by the heavens, He knew exactly were the stars and planets would be to give witness to the birth of His Son. God being creator and omniscient this was no problem for Him. Also thanks for proving what I said.

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I'd just like to throw in a few things here before we all vanish completely down the rabbit hole. First off, Jupiter orbits the Sun every 11.86 years, and within that period it seems to turn retrograde - as all the outer planets must - every 400 days or so (398.9 to be precise). So basically once every 13 Earth months. Is this your miraculous sign, something that is so wonderfully amazing it's essentially an annual event? I'm sure you could find something just slightly less ambiguous if you tried, such as a lunar eclipse; there's at least two of them a year, surely someone could fudge something to fit.

Second, the retrograde phenomenon is purely an illusion caused by the Earth's faster orbital period, of no more significance than one car appearing to move backwards from the point of view of a second car passing it, or a railway platform appearing to move backwards when the train starts forward, as seen by a traveller aboard said train.

Third, there is a major problem with the 'Bethlehem Star' story. In order to cause a group of astrologers (as opposed to astronomers) to up sticks and set off blindly across the desert, the 'star' must have been regarded as especially significant, or at least unusual. However, the Magi of the story were not, by any stretch of the imagination, the only astrologers on the planet - nor would they have been the only ones in their hometown. Yet we're to believe that they were the only ones who noticed? Unlikely.

Finally, as has already been alluded, there is little that is original in the whole Christ-myth anyway.

NASA uses the Starry Night program to pinpoint where planets will be so they can have spacecraft to be at the correct place at the correct time. I see also that you do not completely understand that the position a person is at on Earth will determine what is seen, you have to remember the Magi were east of Bethlehem and in close proximity to Babylon.