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Hell is justified.
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RE: Hell is justified.
(February 19, 2020 at 12:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(February 17, 2020 at 6:55 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: That's why I suggested a fixed amount of time.

Nobody should justify what Hitler did. But lets say you gave 1,000 years for each of the 6 million Jews, and 50 million worldwide, no that would not be eternity, but after that finite time, nobody can claim someone like Hitler could or would learn their lesson. Even if one were not to torture Hitler in an "eternity" and gave him a fixed time, that still would not work because someone like that is irredeemable. 

All I was pointing out was that if there were a "hell" which there is not, Hitler would be one case one would be hard pressed not throw him in.

I think you underestimate the transformative power of profound torture. One of the things that is unjust about an eternity of it is that it doesn't take that long for the subject of torture to truly believe what the torturer wants them to believe if that will get the torture to stop. I'd be a believer in seconds flat if I was burning, and it wouldn't take much longer (definitely not a thousand years) to get me to start torturing other people if that's what it took to make my own torture stop. It could literally change me into a different person. Hell, magic mushrooms could literally change me into a different person. Experience in general changes us. It's easy to be cruel when you're in charge and no one will stand up to you, it would be a bit harder if you were deposed and given a big dose of what you've been dishing out.

IMHO, you may have more insight into Hitler's intransigence than I do. But if he can stand thousands of years of horrific torture without learning not to do the things he's being tortured for, I think that counts as a superhuman attribute, truly invincible ignorance.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by brewer - February 14, 2020 at 10:59 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 15, 2020 at 2:32 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 15, 2020 at 4:22 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 15, 2020 at 6:21 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 15, 2020 at 6:28 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 11:45 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 18, 2020 at 12:52 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 1:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 18, 2020 at 1:49 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 11:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 15, 2020 at 3:21 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by downbeatplumb - February 15, 2020 at 5:05 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by zebo-the-fat - February 15, 2020 at 7:06 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Fake Messiah - February 15, 2020 at 7:55 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 15, 2020 at 8:10 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 8:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Fake Messiah - February 15, 2020 at 8:49 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 8:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Belacqua - February 15, 2020 at 9:04 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 4:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Silver - February 15, 2020 at 9:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 15, 2020 at 9:29 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by purplepurpose - February 15, 2020 at 10:33 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 11:11 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by JackRussell - February 15, 2020 at 1:50 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 16, 2020 at 6:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 16, 2020 at 6:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 15, 2020 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2020 at 2:21 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Nay_Sayer - February 15, 2020 at 9:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Pat Mustard - February 16, 2020 at 4:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 16, 2020 at 6:56 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 16, 2020 at 7:35 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 16, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 16, 2020 at 9:15 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by arewethereyet - February 16, 2020 at 9:49 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 16, 2020 at 9:55 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Simon Moon - February 16, 2020 at 2:19 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 16, 2020 at 4:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 16, 2020 at 3:29 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 16, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 16, 2020 at 5:04 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Rhizomorph13 - February 16, 2020 at 5:24 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Valkyrie - February 16, 2020 at 5:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 17, 2020 at 2:28 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 17, 2020 at 2:44 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 3:21 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 18, 2020 at 2:57 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 17, 2020 at 3:34 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Rhizomorph13 - February 17, 2020 at 4:30 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 3:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 17, 2020 at 5:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 5:55 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 17, 2020 at 6:55 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 19, 2020 at 12:51 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2020 at 1:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 1:16 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 8:05 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 8:18 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 8:26 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2020 at 8:30 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by no one - February 17, 2020 at 8:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 17, 2020 at 8:35 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2020 at 3:25 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 8:44 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 18, 2020 at 12:52 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 11:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 11:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 11:50 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 11:53 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 12:04 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Nay_Sayer - February 18, 2020 at 12:13 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 12:25 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 1:05 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 1:13 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 1:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 2:08 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Nay_Sayer - February 18, 2020 at 4:04 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 18, 2020 at 2:45 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 4:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 5:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 6:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 18, 2020 at 6:48 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 18, 2020 at 8:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 18, 2020 at 9:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2020 at 11:08 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 7:48 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 19, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 20, 2020 at 9:23 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 19, 2020 at 9:56 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2020 at 11:16 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 19, 2020 at 4:52 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 19, 2020 at 5:08 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 20, 2020 at 5:38 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 20, 2020 at 7:01 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 20, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 20, 2020 at 9:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 11:00 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 21, 2020 at 11:36 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 12:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 21, 2020 at 1:53 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 2:46 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 21, 2020 at 2:55 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 21, 2020 at 3:17 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 1:43 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 20, 2020 at 10:53 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 8:14 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 1:07 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 19, 2020 at 2:07 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 2:39 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by arewethereyet - February 19, 2020 at 3:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 1:17 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 1:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 1:35 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 2:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 4:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 19, 2020 at 5:28 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2020 at 6:12 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Architect Of Fate - February 19, 2020 at 5:37 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 7:30 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by tackattack - February 20, 2020 at 11:44 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 12:06 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 20, 2020 at 1:24 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 2:34 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 1:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 20, 2020 at 12:26 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Chad32 - February 20, 2020 at 12:30 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 20, 2020 at 11:55 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 11:25 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 1:02 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 2:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 3:03 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 21, 2020 at 1:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 1:50 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 21, 2020 at 2:43 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 2:45 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 3:18 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 2:49 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by tackattack - February 21, 2020 at 3:19 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 21, 2020 at 6:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 21, 2020 at 6:57 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 22, 2020 at 4:58 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 8:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 9:35 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 23, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2020 at 8:29 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 7:41 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2020 at 7:47 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2020 at 8:36 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 8:49 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 9:00 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 9:28 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 9:37 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 22, 2020 at 9:48 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2020 at 8:50 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 22, 2020 at 9:50 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by tackattack - February 24, 2020 at 11:35 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 24, 2020 at 1:17 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 24, 2020 at 1:28 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 24, 2020 at 11:38 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Silver - February 24, 2020 at 11:42 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 24, 2020 at 1:40 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 9:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 12:27 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 2:00 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 2:16 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 5:01 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 5:07 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 6:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 9:39 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 26, 2020 at 7:07 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2020 at 7:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 26, 2020 at 9:17 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2020 at 9:24 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 26, 2020 at 12:32 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 26, 2020 at 12:50 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 27, 2020 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2020 at 2:15 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 28, 2020 at 9:59 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Abaddon_ire - February 26, 2020 at 2:10 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 27, 2020 at 9:38 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 27, 2020 at 11:57 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 25, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Brian37 - February 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2020 at 10:11 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 25, 2020 at 10:40 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 12:10 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 25, 2020 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 1:43 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mister Agenda - February 26, 2020 at 10:20 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 26, 2020 at 10:41 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 25, 2020 at 2:20 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by WinterHold - February 25, 2020 at 5:14 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 25, 2020 at 8:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Deesse23 - February 26, 2020 at 2:51 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2020 at 5:19 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - February 25, 2020 at 9:44 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 26, 2020 at 8:02 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 26, 2020 at 9:25 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2020 at 10:12 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2020 at 9:45 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2020 at 4:49 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2020 at 4:57 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 29, 2020 at 6:16 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by LastPoet - February 29, 2020 at 6:21 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2020 at 9:34 am
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 29, 2020 at 12:48 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 29, 2020 at 1:11 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 29, 2020 at 2:29 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 29, 2020 at 2:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 29, 2020 at 2:59 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by SuicideCommando01 - April 26, 2020 at 3:14 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 26, 2020 at 4:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by SuicideCommando01 - April 26, 2020 at 5:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Mr Greene - April 26, 2020 at 4:57 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 26, 2020 at 5:02 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Fake Messiah - April 26, 2020 at 5:10 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 26, 2020 at 8:25 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by SuicideCommando01 - April 26, 2020 at 9:41 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 30, 2020 at 1:54 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2020 at 2:23 pm
RE: Hell is justified. - by theMadJW - April 30, 2020 at 3:49 pm

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