Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?

[Cinjin]

At the least, I would say this 'star' is proof that the bible contains information that is historically trustworthy. This doesn't mean that the bible is ALL true. I tried to convey this in my previous post. As far as it's claims for God and salvation etc, these matters are ultimately decided on by faith, which unfortunately will not satisfy most people.

Cinjin- please show me one instance where I have said you must simply believe in Jesus?

In the sentence immediately prior to this one. "...these matters are ultimately decided by faith"

I've studied, doubted, prayed, doubted, studied, prayed a bit more, and even now I still doubt some things, but I have chosen to 'step out in faith' and trust that Jesus is real. Why can you not be somewhat gracious about are differing positions?

You want to believe in a book of nonsense. Fine. That's not the problem. It's the continued attempt to prove a belief that many of us find infuriating. You people constantly have to validate your beliefs by attempting to prove your god and his inept son to the rest of the world. Posting things like silly stars and ancient historians whose credentials have been in question for centuries and whose evidence is circumstantial at best - if not completely made up.

Why can't you people just believe and let it be? You'll notice the deists and buddhists are never trying to prove jack shit to anyone. You ALL claim that belief is so very important to you, but then you spend all your time trying to present "evidence". There is none. Accept it. Get over it and move on.




Final thought: If you can PROVE anything that you believe - you no longer BELIEVE it - you simply know it as fact. So which is it? Do you really need the highly questionable "evidence" of the Star of Bethlehem, the historian Josephus, and the multitude of other half-baked ideas or do you have faith. Cause trying to sell both in the same package is just nauseating. Only a christian could try to combine Belief and Proof in the same stupid circle.