(February 13, 2010 at 4:41 am)Fox_McCloud Wrote: I guess I am just a little disappointed, I learned atheism from these guys, and they are getting torn apart by theists. I figured that as an atheist I had the clearly more logical, and reasonable, sensible position, and when explained properly, it would be very obvious to others. Yet from these debates, atheists actually became christians. I cannot say that it doesn't make me do a double take on my own beliefs.
I saw the Craig-Hitchens debate, and indeed, Hitchens doesn't perform to his usual standards. He doesn't really seem bothered engaging for some reason. Craig's arguments are still no good but it is a bit disappointing not to see Christopher shred them as per usual. However, Hitchens usually makes short work of his opposition and there are plenty of examples on the old youtube, have a look.
My point is, it doesn't matter whether Hitchens is on form or not in a debate, there aren't an good theistic arguments or evidence. Don't let anybody else be your reason for believing things, evaluate them for yourself.
If you're still unsure, there are plenty of atheists on top form around this forum.
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