(April 11, 2020 at 7:58 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(April 11, 2020 at 7:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: MODERN man appeared several hundred thousand years ago, though there is evidence appearing almost yearly that pushes our age back further.
And if that's the case, what makes you certain the religious narrative definitely contradicts what we know so far.
(April 11, 2020 at 7:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Piltdown man. A proverbial favourite of the creationists. Publushed in a non-peer reviewed journal an finally outed by scientists.
Why are you conflating abiogenesis with evolution?
The point is, the hoax happened because someone needed to support shaky claims. I'm not saying evolution didn't happen, nor that there is other evidence supporting its claims. But I wouldn't call it a fact.
(April 11, 2020 at 7:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Why are you conflating abiogenesis with evolution?
Isn't that what you think happened though? If there is no divine intervention, surely life came spontaneously thanks to some crazy chemical coincidence
(April 11, 2020 at 7:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Then, no. A god being just does not imply that that god would necessarily guide its creations.
Boru
Whut.? In what sense a god can be called just, then.. If its creatures have no clue of what they're doing on earth .?
The religious narrative begins thiusands of years ago, not millions. And many within religious circles seem convinced the world us around 6;000 years old.
While I accept that there may gave been Ug the Volcano God in the murky depths of ourcancestry, the "modern" religions usually seem comfortable ignoring the older history.
I also accept that an occasional scientist has perpetuated a hoax or rushed to published findings instead of waiting for those findings to be reviewed.
Of course, there are those in the relugious workd who have done the same. The almost yearly "discovery" of Noah's Ark seems a good example. But I can find more if pressed.
The point being, emphasising such actions within one group while ignoring them in your own isn't good. (And no, I'm not accusing you of such an omission).
Finally, I don't believe in evolution. I accept it. Just as I reject any supernatural involvement.
While I also accept abiogenesis, it's not the only theiry on the origins of life. We also have panspermua along with others I can't think of right now.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"