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Happy Birthday, Hitch!
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RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch!
(April 15, 2020 at 2:57 am)Belacqua Wrote: First, to show that what he is saying is true, we would have to find a Christian who says that heaven would be like North Korea. [..] The whole point of heaven, though, is that it is supposed to be a happy place.

Or, hear this, maybe Hitchens read the Bible where heaven is described as North Korea. Like Revelation 19:14 says, "The armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses." - Do you see that? It mentions there is an army in heaven - just like in NK. Not a very secure and happy place when you are surrounded by soldiers. Then in Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence and the violent take it by force. Suffering and violence are not attributes of a happy place.

Revelation 12:7 says there was war in heaven. If a war occurs there it's not a happy or a perfecr place and if it happened before why couldn't it occur again? Moreover, why would anyone seek to enter a realm in which war is a possibility when that is what nearly all people are trying to avoid? If war is possible in heaven, why wouldn't all other nefarious activities be equally plausible? After all, it would be hard to imagine a war without lying, stealing, cheating, brutality, killing, inhumanity, and all the other activities we have all grown so accustomed to in bad parts of this world.

Then Matthew 16:19 describes Heaven as a totalitarian place: "I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven."
How could people be bound or restrained in a perfect place of freedom? But, then again, perhaps it isn't that free?

Or the whole character of angel Michael who is a general of God's army. And so on...
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 13, 2020 at 4:52 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by The Valkyrie - April 13, 2020 at 5:11 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Succubus#2 - April 13, 2020 at 5:36 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 5:59 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 13, 2020 at 6:03 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 6:09 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by The Valkyrie - April 13, 2020 at 6:32 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 6:37 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 13, 2020 at 7:20 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 7:25 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 13, 2020 at 7:37 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 13, 2020 at 8:05 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Brian37 - April 13, 2020 at 7:51 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Rahn127 - April 13, 2020 at 3:26 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 13, 2020 at 5:33 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by chimp3 - April 13, 2020 at 5:38 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 13, 2020 at 5:45 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 5:47 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 13, 2020 at 5:51 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by chimp3 - April 13, 2020 at 5:56 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 13, 2020 at 6:13 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 13, 2020 at 7:23 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2020 at 9:02 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by The Valkyrie - April 13, 2020 at 7:43 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 15, 2020 at 10:55 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by arewethereyet - April 15, 2020 at 10:59 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by The Valkyrie - April 15, 2020 at 3:45 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 15, 2020 at 5:14 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2020 at 4:55 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 15, 2020 at 6:39 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 17, 2020 at 1:14 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 17, 2020 at 1:47 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 13, 2020 at 10:47 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 14, 2020 at 1:06 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 14, 2020 at 3:40 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Succubus#2 - April 14, 2020 at 6:39 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Anomalocaris - April 14, 2020 at 10:08 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Little lunch - April 14, 2020 at 7:52 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Ranjr - April 14, 2020 at 10:42 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 15, 2020 at 11:02 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2020 at 11:35 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Ranjr - April 15, 2020 at 12:16 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Anomalocaris - April 15, 2020 at 12:34 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Anomalocaris - April 14, 2020 at 11:59 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 14, 2020 at 4:28 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Little lunch - April 15, 2020 at 6:36 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 15, 2020 at 7:21 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2020 at 12:13 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 15, 2020 at 2:57 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2020 at 3:42 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 15, 2020 at 4:33 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2020 at 4:52 am
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Ranjr - April 15, 2020 at 5:43 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by R00tKiT - April 15, 2020 at 5:59 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Ranjr - April 15, 2020 at 6:13 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by The Valkyrie - April 15, 2020 at 6:43 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Ranjr - April 15, 2020 at 6:50 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by chimp3 - April 18, 2020 at 7:27 pm
RE: Happy Birthday, Hitch! - by Belacqua - April 19, 2020 at 7:21 am

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