(May 24, 2020 at 3:00 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sure, independent of god.
We both know that grass grows. If grass grows in a universe with god, grass grows. If grass grows in a universe without god....grass grows. Grass grows either way, grass neccesarrily grows regardless of whether or not there are any gods.
Simple.
This is the opposite of the "Look at the trees" argument for god. The usual form is, "hey look at all this oddly planned stuff, there must be a planner." Or the watchmaker argument.
If you are saying that it is apparent that no god was necessary to grow the grass you bear a burden of proof, after all, it is very in line with some forms of theism that the very rules that govern grass growing are part of god's code or god is the embodying thingy that potentiates grass growing AND those claims bear a burden of proof!
So what evidence do you have to to support your claim that grass grows WITHOUT the assistance of a god?
Also, you said earlier in this thread that gods exist. I thought you were an atheist, or have I misunderstood your stance this whole time?
