The Struggle to do Good

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The Struggle to do Good

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RE: The Struggle to do Good

June 7, 2020 at 6:11 am (This post was last modified: June 7, 2020 at 6:12 am by brokenreflector.)

(June 7, 2020 at 6:08 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Exactly that, yes. If morality is objective, then it exists without the need of any subjects perception. Gods included.

God's existence, including all of His properties, are independent of any subject's perception. Therefore, objective moral values and duties exist in God's nature. Moreover, since God exists in all possible worlds, including the actual, these objective moral values and duties would also be necessary.

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The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by ignoramus - May 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 30, 2020 at 10:05 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2020 at 10:16 pm

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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Anomalocaris - May 31, 2020 at 12:41 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 12:52 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 12:56 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 1:19 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by chimp3 - May 31, 2020 at 2:05 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 2:22 am

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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Anomalocaris - May 31, 2020 at 8:22 am

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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 1:33 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by GUBU - May 31, 2020 at 12:02 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 1:06 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Abaddon_ire - May 31, 2020 at 5:18 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by GUBU - May 31, 2020 at 8:05 pm

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by arewethereyet - May 31, 2020 at 2:10 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 2:16 am

RE: The Struggle to do Good - by no one - May 31, 2020 at 2:28 am

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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by brokenreflector - May 31, 2020 at 2:50 am

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RE: The Struggle to do Good - by Mr.wizard - May 31, 2020 at 6:08 am

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